Cuban 5-Tooler Yoan Moncada Cleared to Sign With a Team

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

About time. The favorites are the Yanks, Red Sox, Dodgers & Giants.

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2015/02/with-mlb-rule-change-yoan-moncada-cleared-to-sign.html

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Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

[MENTION=11929]jesse[/MENTION]SanchezMLB: Sources: Moncada, 19, has worked out privately for the Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Padres, Giants, Rangers, Rays Tigers, and Brewers.

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MisterT · Feb 3, 2015

Get ready for some big numbers on this one...

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

MisterT said:
Get ready for some big numbers on this one...

Expected to exceed $30M, easily.

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WCTYSON · Feb 3, 2015

MisterT said:
Get ready for some big numbers on this one...

Not unless someone figures out how to structure a deal to get around the 100% tax, should still be large though.
[MENTION=1770]Jaypers[/MENTION] Who you got?

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Not unless someone figures out how to structure a deal to get around the 100% tax, should still be large though.
[MENTION=1770]Jaypers[/MENTION] Who you got?

I'll go with the Yanks. In which case, his autos will be through the roof.

maxe0213 · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Not unless someone figures out how to structure a deal to get around the 100% tax, should still be large though.
@Jaypers Who you got?

Most big teams aren't giving a damn about the tax if they've already surpassed the barrier.

Jaypers said:
I'll go with the Yanks. In which case, his autos will be through the roof.

I agree. I think they realize that they need to start signing younger guys. Tanaka, Moncada, Judge, Betances could create a pretty damn good core

WCTYSON · Feb 3, 2015

Jaypers said:
I'll go with the Yanks. In which case, his autos will be through the roof.

maxe0213 said:
Most big teams aren't giving a damn about the tax if they've already surpassed the barrier.

Agreed as well, likely the Yankees.

Unlike the 31-year-old Olivera, Moncada and Ibanez do not qualify for exemption from MLB’s international bonus pool system. Accordingly, the winning team will be forced to pay a 100% penalty tax on the amount by which it exceeds its pool allotment — which, if expectations prove correct, could be quite a substantial sum.

From what I read, this also has to be paid within 30 days. So no, I would not say most big teams would be willing to do that but all it takes is just one.

MisterT · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Not unless someone figures out how to structure a deal to get around the 100% tax, should still be large though.
@Jaypers Who you got?

I know about the tax. Given the likely teams involved and the hype around this kid I still think we will see a big number. (However, as my wife will gladly point out, I have been wrong before.)

maxe0213 · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Agreed as well, likely the Yankees.

Unlike the 31-year-old Olivera, Moncada and Ibanez do not qualify for exemption from MLB’s international bonus pool system. Accordingly, the winning team will be forced to pay a 100% penalty tax on the amount by which it exceeds its pool allotment — which, if expectations prove correct, could be quite a substantial sum.

From what I read, this also has to be paid within 30 days. So no, I would not say most big teams would be willing to do that but all it takes is just one.

Most of the teams and speculation has said he will likely cost around a 50 million investment or more.

Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers are all said to be in. I think total investment ends around 60 million.

maxe0213 · Feb 3, 2015

MisterT said:
I know about the tax. Given the likely teams involved and the hype around this kid I still think we will see a big number. (However, as my wife will gladly point out, I have been wrong before.)

You are correct IMO. Pretty clear most of these big teams don't care about this tax with this kid.

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

Baseball America, unlike the other experts' lists, consider anyone with fewer than 130 ABs/50 IP eligible for their Top 100 prospects list, no matter where they come from.

It'll be interesting to see if he signs with a team before their list comes out, which is expected to be in a couple weeks' time, and where he'll rank.

(He'd be in the teens for me.)

WCTYSON · Feb 3, 2015

maxe0213 said:
Most of the teams and speculation has said he will likely cost around a 50 million investment or more.

Angels, Yankees, Red Sox, Cubs, Dodgers are all said to be in. I think total investment ends around 60 million.

Based on that and need as well, I think it is only down to two. Those being the Yankees and the Angels.

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Based on that and need as well, I think it is only down to two. Those being the Yankees and the Angels.

Don't count out the Dodgers. They scouted him extensively, and are said to be extremely interested.

vwnut13 · Feb 3, 2015

I'm expecting, at the least, $80mm (40+40).

smapdi · Feb 3, 2015

Come on Phillies. Do something interesting.

maxe0213 · Feb 3, 2015

WCTYSON said:
Based on that and need as well, I think it is only down to two. Those being the Yankees and the Angels.

Jaypers said:
Don't count out the Dodgers. They scouted him extensively, and are said to be extremely interested.

As have teh Sox and Cubs. All of those teams can afford it and everyone has need for a young STUD. Its not "down to two" or any number. Its realistically a 5 team race IMO with a few sleeper teams (Giants come to mind)

AnthonyCorona · Feb 3, 2015

maxe0213 said:
Most big teams aren't giving a damn about the tax if they've already surpassed the barrier.

I agree. I think they realize that they need to start signing younger guys. Tanaka, Moncada, Judge, Betances could create a pretty damn good core

Omg that is music to my ears!

Jaypers · Feb 3, 2015

The Cubs and Rangers can't sign Moncada unless he agrees to wait until July 2 to do so, which I doubt will happen.

maxe0213 · Feb 3, 2015

Jaypers said:
The Cubs and Rangers can't sign Moncada unless he agrees to wait until July 2 to do so, which I doubt will happen.

Ah knew I was missing something. That still leaves at least 4 large market teams with some others as dark horses IMO.

AnthonyCorona said:
Omg that is music to my ears!

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