The lunacy that is Topps Heritage...

cjedmonton · Mar 16, 2015

Crazy tough SSP variations? I get it.

Rabid set collectors? Sure.

Cool retro vibe? Groovy.

$1,500+ for a non-rookie auto redemption that may take a year or more to fulfill? Lunacy.

The logic just doesn't compute....and I'm both a die hard Dodgers and southpaw fan.

Ryan almost detracts from the theme...if that's possible.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Topps-...779?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2f321f63

Pine Tar · Mar 16, 2015

Can't you just buy all 3 of those in an auto for less then what it is going for right now?

maxe0213 · Mar 16, 2015

I guess I'm not following. That card is awesome! A triple auto of Kersh / Koufax / Ryan is an awesome pull.

Musial Collector · Mar 16, 2015

maxe0213 said:
I guess I'm not following. That card is awesome! A triple auto of Kersh / Koufax / Ryan is an awesome pull.

As a seller you are right, that is an awesome pull.
However as a buyer, shelling out 1500+ for a redemption, when we all know Topps track record for redemption's, therein lays the lunacy.
You buy that redemption, for whatever reason it does not get filled (hypothetically speaking Ryan refuses to sign), you will never get 1500+ in replacement value from Topps, ever!

cjedmonton · Mar 16, 2015

If Topps fulfills this redemption, it is a terrific card.

However, considering the other cards you could get of theirs for this price is nothing short of astounding...not to mention other signed memorabilia.

The seller must be delighted. Does anyone recall a higher price for a single Heritage card?

To put another perspective on this, a 2012 Five Star Six Sig card including these 3 recently sold for $2,500.

That works out to a cool grand for the other 3: Seaver, Halladay, and Verlander!! No one ever said card collectors are rational!

maxe0213 · Mar 16, 2015

cjedmonton said:
No one ever said card collectors are rational!

This is key lol. Card collectors are some of the most irrational people out there

cjedmonton · Mar 16, 2015

...and a 20% bump at the last second for good measure. Good heavens.

This has to be a Heritage record, no?

At least the design is clean:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2015-Topps-...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

joey12508 · Mar 16, 2015

Wow taking some chance topps actually fufils the redemption.

TNP777 · Mar 16, 2015

Oh my goodness. A Koufax/Kershaw/Ryan went for less than Bo/Brock/Trout?Yeah, I get that the KKR is a redemption and the other was live, but still.

IndyManning18 · Mar 16, 2015

Oh, I get it. Nolan Ryan played for the California Angels which is in the same state the Dodgers play in.

joey12508 · Mar 16, 2015

cjedmonton said:
If Topps fulfills this redemption, it is a terrific card.

However, considering the other cards you could get of theirs for this price is nothing short of astounding...not to mention other signed memorabilia.

The seller must be delighted. Does anyone recall a higher price for a single Heritage card?To put another perspective on this, a 2012 Five Star Six Sig card including these 3 recently sold for $2,500.

That works out to a cool grand for the other 3: Seaver, Halladay, and Verlander!! No one ever said card collectors are rational!

This dual maybe

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2013-TOPPS-HERITAGE-SANDY-KOUFAX-CLAYTON-KERSHAW-DUAL-AUTOGRAPH-LA-DODGERS-/301488498358?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item46321d66b6

cjedmonton · Mar 16, 2015

IndyManning18 said:
Oh, I get it. Nolan Ryan played for the California Angels which is in the same state the Dodgers play in.

Nice read...I just focused on the fact that all 3 have had seasons with 10 Ks or more per IP.

[MENTION=2041]joey12508[/MENTION]...that card was signed in person. If it went for anywhere near $2,500, the buyer is probably regretting the purchase once they realized it.

Musial Collector · Mar 16, 2015

cjedmonton said:
Nice read...I just focused on the fact that all 3 have had seasons with 10 Ks or more per IP.

@joey12508...that card was signed in person. If it went for anywhere near $2,500, the buyer is probably regretting the purchase once they realized it.

According to sortsof.com, it went for $2300

predatorkj · Mar 16, 2015

Anyone paying any considerable money for any redemption is just setting themselves up. As a player collector, it was hard for me to avoid all the new redemptions for Bagwell autos because I am a completist and I was afraid I'd be left out by not buying them. But, sure enough, as far as I've seen, not one of them has gone live. That's not to say they never will(though I'm not holding my breath), but I look at it like this: that was money I used instead to buy cards that actually exist and I can own. Besides, if topps can put out one product with his autos live after a product is already out with redemptions, it's kind of a joke. Whoops, sorry, we got so carried away we forgot about you guys holding redemptions? Now maybe, despite actual release dates, one was made before the other, hence the redemptions in a product when the one coming out after is live. Either way, I don't think the companies should offer them. Don't put it in the product or on the sell sheet unless you have it.

What topps has basically done is consistently made promises they can't fulfill. And have a very lengthy track record of this. And people seem to go along with it. That's the oddest part.

cjedmonton · Mar 16, 2015

Musial Collector said:
According to sortsof.com, it went for $2300

Oh my. In that case, it had better be part of a lifelong personal collection with no regard for resale value. That, or pray that they find an equal minded buyer. That is probably $2k too much, in my opinion.

sportscardtheory · Mar 17, 2015

Musial Collector said:
...Ryan refuses to sign...

In my best Bane voice - "ImPOSSible!".

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