Player used??

psj · Feb 2, 2016

Is player used the same as player worn? Or is it the same as game used? I hate the disingenuous/shady wording they use now. If its only player worn, say that. Like when they say 'event worn', I know its not game used. So what do u guys think?

IndyManning18 · Feb 2, 2016

Player worn/used could simply mean the player wore/used the item at an event or for a photo shoot.

Yes, card companies are lazy ****s.

swish54_99 · Feb 2, 2016

To me, it means it's a shady way to say not game used. They probably wore it at some event for a few minutes.

Dilferules · Feb 3, 2016

Considering Panini is using the wording 'player used' for National Treasures cards of rookie-year players they would be unlikely to have a bunch of jerseys of, with TONS of patches of these players, I would suspect they aren't game-worn. Maybe the player used the jerseys to dry off their car after washing it.

Topps' "not from any particular game, event, or season" wording they get a lot of crap for is preferable to simply "player worn" even, since Topps generally will also specifically say "game-used" on the front of the card.

psj · Feb 3, 2016

Dilferules said:
Considering Panini is using the wording 'player used' for National Treasures cards of rookie-year players they would be unlikely to have a bunch of jerseys of, with TONS of patches of these players, I would suspect they aren't game-worn. Maybe the player used the jerseys to dry off their car after washing it.

Topps' "not from any particular game, event, or season" wording they get a lot of crap for is preferable to simply "player worn" even, since Topps generally will also specifically say "game-used" on the front of the card.

It was a Rob Refsynder card, and he did play in a few games for the Yankees this past season, so I wasnt sure. I am now though lol

LWMM · Feb 3, 2016

"Worn" implies that it is an object that was on the player's body, such as a jersey, cap, pants, shoes, etc. "Used" is more encompassing, e.g., you can both "use" and "wear" a jersey, but you can only "use" a bat.

So the worn/used distinction seems like one that differentiates between types of items (with "used" broader than "worn), while the game/event distinction exists on a separate plane (with, "event" being broader than "game").

vwnut13 · Feb 3, 2016

In National Treasures this year they are either 'player-used' or 'game-used'.

I think that's all you need to know.

Pinbreaker · Feb 3, 2016

So this would be player used.. I don't think it was used in a game..

The Mariners had Griffey playing 1st base while he was healing..

Austin · Feb 3, 2016

So are some of these not even official team-issued jerseys then?
Like the card company can just go to a sporting goods store or online, by a jersey and have the player wear it for a few seconds?
And people spend money on these cards?

Lars · Feb 3, 2016

http://www.beckett.com/news/2015/03...ight-during-panini-spring-training-road-trip/

http://www.beckett.com/news/2015/03...the-panini-america-spring-training-road-trip/

caster513 · Feb 3, 2016

predatorkj · Feb 3, 2016

For football rookies, it's generally known none of the stuff is GU'd. But most of Panini's vet relic cards specify game used. To me, they are more transparent than Topps on this front.

And somebody mentioned bat can only be used. Not if they are merely game issued and didn't get used. I think a lot of the bat pieces are more than likely game issued or BP bats...

Brewer Andy · Feb 3, 2016

I'm fine with Panini's wording. They also specifically state "game used" so I it's not a blanket statement on every card. Isn't that preferable?

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r2d2 · Feb 4, 2016

I hope we don't reach "event hold bat"

Pinbreaker · Feb 4, 2016

I used to buy some of my Game Used Jerseys directly from the Mariners Team store and they would have Game Used and Game Issued jerseys..

Game issued jerseys were given to the players, but never used in a game.. maybe for practice, but not for an official game..

Same as Game Used vs Game Issued bats..

predatorkj · Feb 4, 2016

Pinbreaker said:
I used to buy some of my Game Used Jerseys directly from the Mariners Team store and they would have Game Used and Game Issued jerseys..

Game issued jerseys were given to the players, but never used in a game.. maybe for practice, but not for an official game..

Same as Game Used vs Game Issued bats..

They have the same thing at minute maid park here. Funny thing is one of the guys running it tried to BS me and tell me they are all potentially game used. He told me just look at the laundry tag to see if it's wrinkled or not. Lol! Obviously some of the jerseys are but only the ones they have up on the wall for sale. I think they wanted a $1000 for the Altuve. But it did have some hellacious dirt stains on it.

predatorkj · Feb 4, 2016

Brewer Andy said:
I'm fine with Panini's wording. They also specifically state "game used" so I it's not a blanket statement on every card. Isn't that preferable?

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Yes it's very preferable. Could they be lying? Yep. But if they do, they'd be in big trouble legally I think. I think topps realized this and that is why they now use such vague wording. All it takes is one disgruntled employee involved with the process and any hurtful secrets could come rolling out. Which is what it would take. None of us could probably find a card with enough substantial evidence indicating it was or wasn't game used.

predatorkj · Feb 4, 2016

r2d2 said:
I hope we don't reach "event hold bat"

I think there are enough bats to go around. I just think that we get a lot more game issued or BP bats in cards. But with the jersey patch cards being made, especially for rookies, those patches(especially if the card features a big piece) would dry up quick.

vwnut13 · Feb 5, 2016

predatorkj said:
They have the same thing at minute maid park here. Funny thing is one of the guys running it tried to BS me and tell me they are all potentially game used. He told me just look at the laundry tag to see if it's wrinkled or not. Lol! Obviously some of the jerseys are but only the ones they have up on the wall for sale. I think they wanted a $1000 for the Altuve. But it did have some hellacious dirt stains on it.

They are potentially game used. An MLB Authenticator has to witness the item being used for it to be authenticated as Game Used.

Lots of team issued items are from when they clear out the clubhouse at the end of the year. Is it likely that some of the jerseys/jackets/hats/etc. were used in a game? Absolutely, but they can't be authenticated as game used.

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