Why does justin verlander suck???

as i tigers fan i just cant figure it out, to go from one of the best pitchers in his first season even throwing a no hitter to a pitcher that quite honestly shouldnt even be in the starting rotation, he has looked like dog crap this year once again, anybody have any reason why?

I don't have an answer but you win for best thread title of the year.

I almost feel bad for him. Hopefully he never reaches Barry Zito territory. :?

Because people hit the balls he throws?

Reds in 2009 said:

I don't have an answer but you win for best thread title of the year.

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haha i thought i would go for the simple but to the point title.

Probably the same reason John Maine and Oliver Perez SUCK!!!

Art

5 RBIs by Morales so far tonight!

Reds in 2009 said:

I don't have an answer but you win for best thread title of the year.

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quote of the year :lol:

verlanders is the next zito

darocker80 said:

verlanders is the next zito

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i wouldn't give up on him so soon.

ccolwell said:

darocker80 said:

verlanders is the next zito

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i wouldn't give up on him so soon.

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i dunno, isn't his velocity down too?

darocker80 said:

ccolwell said:

darocker80 said:

verlanders is the next zito

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i wouldn't give up on him so soon.

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i dunno, isn't his velocity down too?

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idk but there has to be something left in his tank lol

ccolwell said:

darocker80 said:

ccolwell said:

darocker80 said:

verlanders is the next zito

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i wouldn't give up on him so soon.

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i dunno, isn't his velocity down too?

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idk but there has to be something left in his tank lol

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zito was lights out today

his start in seattle, the first 4 innings he was unhittable. was throwing upper 90s then blew up in the 5th. hes ****** up but hes got a ways to go before he hits zito/dontrelle territory

not to burst your bubble buddy, but as your guy still has a 9 ERA, zito threw 7 shutout innings tonight...

jeremy said:

his start in seattle, the first 4 innings he was unhittable. was throwing upper 90s then blew up in the 5th. hes ****** up but hes got a ways to go before he hits zito/dontrelle territory

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ccolwell said:

darocker80 said:

verlanders is the next zito

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i wouldn't give up on him so soon.

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zito was better than him

Zito is still a solid start IMO.

Reds in 2009 said:

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lol

i was actually wondering how he dropped off of the face of the earth too...mechanics maybe? head case? its just weird...maybe trade him to the white sox so he can resurrect his career??

markakis8 said:

not to burst your bubble buddy, but as your guy still has a 9 ERA, zito threw 7 shutout innings tonight...

jeremy said:

his start in seattle, the first 4 innings he was unhittable. was throwing upper 90s then blew up in the 5th. hes ****** up but hes got a ways to go before he hits zito/dontrelle territory

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Zito has been bad for a couple years now...one quality start doesn't all of a sudden put him back at the level he was at with Oakland.

Verlander's stats can be seen here: http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/individual_stats_player.jsp?c_id=mlb&playerID=434378

He was one of the best pitchers in baseball his first two seasons, and has not been effective since. It's kind of tough to understand how this can happen. One thing that has had a small effect is that he is now the staff ace, so he pitches against other teams' top pitchers most of the time. Obviously it's harder to win against better pitchers.

He changed his fastball last year to try to get more movement and sacrifice some velocity and I just don't think it helped him at all. I haven't followed him thus far this year, but he still has good stuff and can be tough. It just seems like last year was a product of bad luck. There was a stretch of like 11 starts in a row last year where he gave up 2 runs or fewer 9 times (and only 3 runs the other two starts), but he only ended up with 4 or 5 wins during this stretch because the Tigers weren't scoring runs for him.

He might not be the dominant pitcher he was only a couple years ago, but he still has the stuff to do so. It's just a matter of whether or not he can put it back together in his starts.

verlander is going to end up like prior