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NECpilgrims8
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chashawk said:
Your reason to open old cans or worms?
Weak.
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ChasHawk
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NECpilgrims8 said:
Ummmm....he just posted it today?
I thought there might be some interest?
Why do you care?
notoriousrmb
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Regardless of who is funding Razor, does it really make a bit of difference as to the prospecting value of the product? Is it shady? Sure, but what does that matter when it comes down to what these cards are supposed to mean to prospectors.
If anything, having an UD backing makes the Razor line more legit. I'm tired of hearing all the stories. Pick any sucessful company and I bet there will be some "shady" dealings going on behind the scenes.
If UD really did think up all this to compete with Bowman, isn't that just good business sense?
If anything, having an UD backing makes the Razor line more legit. I'm tired of hearing all the stories. Pick any sucessful company and I bet there will be some "shady" dealings going on behind the scenes.
If UD really did think up all this to compete with Bowman, isn't that just good business sense?
NECpilgrims8
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chashawk said:
I just think it's weak to keep opening this can of worms. I don't really care about the issue either way, but it's just so old at this point.
That blog post is still all hearsay and unconfirmed details. Nothing is confirmed absolute fact, so the real answer is - who cares?
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NECpilgrims8 said:
I'm guessing at least a few people. Gilmore has previously confirmed that Judd is a very legit source.
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NECpilgrims8 said:
I haven't read the blog yet, but considering the source is someone who is supposed to be an insider and this is a hobby discussion board I don't understand why you're pitching a fit about this.
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The memo brought in 10,000+ hits in 48 hours, small numbers compared to FBC, but huge for a card blog. It was also linked by over 5 different forums. Trust me, people care.
As for Judd, Gilmore has stated that he is the most reliable source in the blogosphere. Clearly, people trust what this guy has to say.
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mchenrycards
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I have no issues with this information being posted again although it is old news. The blog just confirms what we all already know. Is it a smart business move on UD's part? Maybe. I mean they were trying to devalue their competition's product after all. I am just not personally comfortable with the whole back room dealings between UD and Brian, it just gives me a slimey feeling and this is the reason I will not buy either companies product!
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ru4scuba said:
Hardly pitching a fit. All I said is that it's tiresome to keep rehashing this. My thoughts about the Razor products have done a 180 in the past months, so I really have nothing much invested overall.
I have no gripe, but rather a big whatever to all of this. I equate it to the news of steroids in baseball.
xcantgobackx
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Honestly, I had no clue about any of this. So this blog's contents may be old to most, but was news to me. Thanks!
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ChasHawk
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[/quote:2my2tvm2]NECpilgrims8 said:
Hardly pitching a fit. All I said is that it's tiresome to keep rehashing this. My thoughts about the Razor products have done a 180 in the past months, so I really have nothing much invested overall.
I have no gripe, but rather a big whatever to all of this. I equate it to the news of steroids in baseball.[/quote]
Which oddly enough, people continue to be interested in. :lol:
NECpilgrims8
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[/quote:39zkdfk0]chashawk said:
Hardly pitching a fit. All I said is that it's tiresome to keep rehashing this. My thoughts about the Razor products have done a 180 in the past months, so I really have nothing much invested overall.
I have no gripe, but rather a big whatever to all of this. I equate it to the news of steroids in baseball.[/quote:39zkdfk0]
Which oddly enough, people continue to be interested in. :lol:[/quote]
Touche.
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Shady things, yep, they were done, this just adds to the pile of evidence or at least speculated evidence.
However, the real question for me is this, as far as I know, the exclusive contracts are still quite valid AND with all this news has come lack of news in another fashion, no news has been heard about 2009 releases for Razor. Thus, are the Metal, Sig Series and Letterman cards of these prospects the only ones we are going to see until they make it to the MLB?
If so, it presents a real interesting proposition for prospectors, do you invest in a product/brand that has some baggage to get the upside of the prospect you like and the limited amount of cards that have been released of said prospect?
However, the real question for me is this, as far as I know, the exclusive contracts are still quite valid AND with all this news has come lack of news in another fashion, no news has been heard about 2009 releases for Razor. Thus, are the Metal, Sig Series and Letterman cards of these prospects the only ones we are going to see until they make it to the MLB?
If so, it presents a real interesting proposition for prospectors, do you invest in a product/brand that has some baggage to get the upside of the prospect you like and the limited amount of cards that have been released of said prospect?
i43770
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I personally think this, maybe not this blog but the story as a whole, is big news. If this is true, it was smart of UD to do this to attempt to hurt Bowman's sales of Draft. But the issue I see of this being known is the MLB. I believe that this could end up hurting UD much more than it hurt Bowman. If UD loses it's license over this, they will be down to football and hockey. As much as the Super Bowl is watched, the cards don't carry the same clout as baseball cards do.
notjomommasclint
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if anything this does not increase the legitimacy to razor it makes me second guess any upper deck product. game worn, event worn, and autos. if they will go to this length to mislead the collecting community and deny all the rumors as liable then why wouldnt they act in some tomfoolery with those? at least with sp and prospect premiers there was an upper deck logo. doing this out of spite is small. i wonder what ud would do if topps did some cut autos of michael jordan or kobe in their last basketball run!
eh, he didn't really say anything that wasn't already assumed.
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