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soccerman034
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Just a hypothetical question.
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Bryce Harper or Stephen Strasburg?
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cowboysrule48
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It's a no-brainer for me. I'll take the guy that might be able to start helping my team this season, rather than the one that is 3-4 years away at best.
pujolsjunkie
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Give me the hitter, every day of the week. The volatility of pitching prospects is through the roof. One injury can destroy everything.
aminors
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pujolsjunkie said:
Absolutely. Exactly why I picked Harper>Strasburg. Ya know, most of me just wants Stephen Strasburg to end up the next Brien Taylor.
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craiger122003
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Wow so many strasburg picks? You have to remember hitters can produce while injured pitchers can't
cowboysrule48
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I love how people want players to fail just because of the hype they get. I really don't get it.
I'm looking at it from the business standpoint of the Nationals. Strasburg can put people in the seats this year if he signs soon enough. He should be in the rotation most of next year. He has the hype that is going to make people travel to watch him pitch. I'll take the player that is going to be making me money for four years over the guy playing in the minors for that long.
I'm looking at it from the business standpoint of the Nationals. Strasburg can put people in the seats this year if he signs soon enough. He should be in the rotation most of next year. He has the hype that is going to make people travel to watch him pitch. I'll take the player that is going to be making me money for four years over the guy playing in the minors for that long.
bballcardkid
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craiger122003 said:
When did Strasburg get injured? I must have missed that.
Brett Keith
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Strasburg, because his cost-controlled/pre-free agency years will likely be better than those of Harper.
craiger122003
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He did not get injured my point was a hitter can still DH/pinch hit while injured
or play first base
or play first base
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cowboysrule48 said:
I agree with you, except the part about Harper being in the minors that long.
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Brett Keith said:
Well if he was drafted this year, he would only be 20, that's still much younger than most guys make it. He's bound to have some bumps, and I doubt a team would want to rush his talent.
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cowboysrule48 said:
Barring severe injuries or multiple underperforming years, I'd bet he'll be in the bigs by 19, or atleast 20 if he's drafted next year. Elite prospects tend to not spend entire seasons at each level, then there are the really elite guys, which most are assuming Harper is. Justin Upton had a "bump" his first full season, underperforming, but he was in the bigs the next season at 19.
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Brett Keith said:
That's small-market thinking right there! I like it
mredsox89
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I take the player who has conquered the best competition. Strasburg dominated the NCAA, and even though he was in a weak conference, it is better competition than Harper faced in HS.
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craiger122003 said:
Your first post doesn't make sense. Hitters can't produce injured if the injury is bad enough. I took Strasburg. Build a team around pitching any day of the week. Also Strasburg is ready right now, and has faced better competition.
But looking at stuff and clips about Harper, he is pretty incredible.
Found this is a 2005 BA article about the best young kids:
"Bryce Harper. Possibly the country?s best 12-year-old hitter, 5-foot-10 Las Vegas talent was in demand by nation?s top travel teams"
http://prospectsplus.baseballamerica.co ... 2ages.html
craiger122003
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You missed my point a hitter can still provide some sort of value even with a hammy injury,ankle, etc etc a pitcher if injured provides absolutely no value
Bryce Harper may very well be the best young hitting prospect we've seen in modern "prospecting" terms, but Strasburg is also the best pitching prospect we've seen in these times. People always point out the big pitching busts, but for every Todd Van Poppel there is a Phil Plantier, Kevin Maas, etc.
Production from HS to even the minors can be volatile. Strasburg has the kind of heat that can't be taught and is able to contribute right now. Since pitching is inherently more valuable than hitting, give me the kid with the golden arm.
Production from HS to even the minors can be volatile. Strasburg has the kind of heat that can't be taught and is able to contribute right now. Since pitching is inherently more valuable than hitting, give me the kid with the golden arm.
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I take the hitter who also happens to be a catcher. One small injury to that arm can drastically change everything, and every pitcher ends up having some concerns at some point.
I'm surprised it's this close. Strasburg is a college junior, has pitched for Team USA, and could basically go straight to the Majors this season. Harper is a high school sophmore. Sure he may have a ridiculous ceiling and a great chance of reaching that ceiling quickly, but he's still a HS sophmore. I'll take the guy who's closer with essentially the same ceiling (Superstar level) any day, despite the injury risk.
darocker80
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Can the nationals afford to get both?
This year strasburg, next year or the following year get harper?
This year strasburg, next year or the following year get harper?
