Buyer finds out he bought fake $8K psa Mantle on ebay!!

G $MONEY$ · Jun 10, 2009

So many fake psa cards on ebay these days.

Check this sale out...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... tsupported

The buyer must of thought he was getting a steal.

He even left POSITIVE FB on the card. Then you can see almost 3 months later he leaves follow up feedback that the card is a fake.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d ... 20Feedback

ThoseBackPages · Jun 10, 2009

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Dpanthers14 · Jun 10, 2009

Can you say "Dumb Ass" :lol: :lol: :lol:

BunchOBull · Jun 10, 2009

I didn't realize there was such a strong market for Miky Mantle cards...give me a break.

craiger122003 · Jun 10, 2009

and besides that who buys a 8 grand card off a seller with single digit feedback?????????????????

miguelcabrera · Jun 10, 2009

and leave feedback b4 getting card

JEA2880 · Jun 10, 2009

“If you think education is expensive, try ignorance”

boomo · Jun 10, 2009

that title is hilarious, almost like the scam emails you get where all the words are spelled wrong which is a dead giveaway, that is the same damn thing. We should message the buyer and ask him how it is going.

Randy Shields · Jun 10, 2009

The guy obviously thought that if it was in a PSA slab it must be legit, but wouldn't you check the PSA serial # before buying this kind of card anyway?

pujolsthomefan33 · Jun 10, 2009

Randy Shields said:
The guy obviously thought that if it was in a PSA slab it must be legit, but wouldn't you check the PSA serial # before buying this kind of card anyway?

Actually the cert checks out...

ITEM INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 07045922
Year: 1952
Brand: TOPPS
Card Number: 311
Player: MICKEY MANTLE
Variety:
Grade: EXCELLENT-MINT 6

So, basically there are 3 explanations to this...

1) The card is REAL

2) PSA certified a Fake card---happens but it is pretty rare

3) Seller cracked the actual Mantle out of the case and probably resubmitted it and put some kind of reprint or something in its place

TK

Randy Shields · Jun 10, 2009

pujolsthomefan33 said:
Randy Shields said:

The guy obviously thought that if it was in a PSA slab it must be legit, but wouldn't you check the PSA serial # before buying this kind of card anyway?

Click to expand...

Actually the cert checks out...

ITEM INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 07045922
Year: 1952
Brand: TOPPS
Card Number: 311
Player: MICKEY MANTLE
Variety:
Grade: EXCELLENT-MINT 6

So, basically there are 3 explanations to this...

1) The card is REAL

2) PSA certified a Fake card---happens but it is pretty rare

3) Seller cracked the actual Mantle out of the case and probably resubmitted it and put some kind of reprint or something in its place

TK

Or maybe a copied scan from a previous auction?

pujolsthomefan33 · Jun 10, 2009

Randy Shields said:
pujolsthomefan33 said:

[quote="Randy Shields":1f9eazfj]The guy obviously thought that if it was in a PSA slab it must be legit, but wouldn't you check the PSA serial # before buying this kind of card anyway?

Click to expand...

Actually the cert checks out...

ITEM INFORMATION
Cert Verification #: 07045922
Year: 1952
Brand: TOPPS
Card Number: 311
Player: MICKEY MANTLE
Variety:
Grade: EXCELLENT-MINT 6

So, basically there are 3 explanations to this...

1) The card is REAL

2) PSA certified a Fake card---happens but it is pretty rare

3) Seller cracked the actual Mantle out of the case and probably resubmitted it and put some kind of reprint or something in its place

TK

Or maybe a copied scan from a previous auction?[/quote:1f9eazfj]

Always possible, but the seller did send a card to the buyer, so I would have assumed he would have sent some form of a Mantle 52 Topps or 52 Topps Reprint.

TK

leatherman · Jun 10, 2009

The PSA flip is fake. It is not a font that PSA has ever used.

Someone made a fake flip using a certification number they saw somewhere before, and inserted it into a slab with a fake card and sealed it. This is similar to the resealing process in the WIWAG (When It Was A Game) scandal, except that in those instances the fakers were using authentic flips and cards, resulting in overgraded cards.

David

Gellman · Jun 10, 2009

Plus, did he really think he was getting a Mantle for 8K? Usually prices are low for a reason! Some people. Too funny.

muchuckwagon · Jun 10, 2009

leatherman said:
The PSA flip is fake. It is not a font that PSA has ever used.

I'm going to disagree.....I think that font has been used. I don't think the buyer received the card/slab pictured in the auction.

pujolsthomefan33 · Jun 10, 2009

Gellman said:
Plus, did he really think he was getting a Mantle for 8K? Usually prices are low for a reason! Some people. Too funny.

For a 6 that is a tad low, since a 4 went for $10K and a 2 went for $4500....but with the bad title (spelled Mickey wrong) and the not so good pic, and single digit feedback, the price isnt probably that far off.

I dont know, lots of possibilities here, I am starting to agree with muchuck on this one, the seller sent a completely different card and ripped the picture off someone else.

TK

G $MONEY$ · Jun 10, 2009

muchuckwagon said:
leatherman said:

The PSA flip is fake. It is not a font that PSA has ever used.

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I'm going to disagree.....I think that font has been used. I don't think the buyer received the card/slab pictured in the auction.

Actually i think leatherman is correct. That is not a font that psa has used. The Flip and card are both fake. The buyer i think got wind the card might be a fake, sent it off to psa and it was confirmed fake. There is a ton of fake PSA flips and cards going around right now. Its known on the internet as the "craigslist scam" as it originated on craigslist with people selling these fakes from Southern California. It is very similar to the When it was a game scam, except the fakers are using fake cards and fake flips.

MartinFFcollector · Jun 10, 2009

Same seller- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...em=&sspagename=STRK:MEWAX:IT&salenotsupported

Craigslist Gehrig- Fake- 2 others have bought it and returned it. It was on ebay and recently the seller pulled it.

Maybe J. Hernandez from San Ysidro is getting scared. Hopefully.

G $MONEY$ · Jun 10, 2009

MartinFFcollector said:
Maybe J. Hernandez from San Ysidro is getting scared. Hopefully.

is this seller Jose Hernandez? How is that guy not in jail?

pujolsthomefan33 · Jun 10, 2009

G $MONEY$ said:
MartinFFcollector said:

Maybe J. Hernandez from San Ysidro is getting scared. Hopefully.

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is this seller Jose Hernandez? How is that guy not in jail?

Becase the real police are too busy to be Baseball Card police......none of these guys ever get caught....

TK

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