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Bornagaincollector
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I hope the Indians don't trade him,but its hard to tell with them.I was just curious to what you think they could get for him.
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What do you think the Indians could get for Cliff Lee?
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19braves77
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A good lot of prospects considering the offers the Braves are fielding for Javier Vazquez.
Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Indians look good on paper but they currently do not have a farm system to plug in a player once a role player or key contribitor gets hurt. Its been like this since since 2000. The Indians are where they are today because of their bad drafting and developing of players from trades.
Rangers get Cliff Lee
Indians get Jarrod Saltamaccia, Julio Borbon, Chris Davis, and Derek Holland
Indians look good on paper but they currently do not have a farm system to plug in a player once a role player or key contribitor gets hurt. Its been like this since since 2000. The Indians are where they are today because of their bad drafting and developing of players from trades.
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19braves77 said:
That's way too much for Lee.
He's good but that's a ridiculous haul.
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19braves77 said:
Cliff Lee warrants these four players!? I don't know if that'd work even if you replaced "Cliff Lee" with "Roy Halladay."
rico08 said:
I don't see what everyone is talking about this being too much to give for a former CY Young winner....Davis is awful(though he may hit 40 HR's in a year...he may also strike out 200 plus times) Holland is going to be good given time as will Borbon, and Salty is decent...If a team wants a proven big league pitcher they have to give up a good amount
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ahill1 said:
3 of those guys have star potential and another one has a chance to be a very good major leaguer. No chance Lee could get a package anywhere near that good.
Davis is NOT awful. Sure he hasn't lived up to expectations but he is still an elite "prospect". That package could get you a controllable ace. Cliff Lee has had 2 good seasons and 3 mediocre/bad seasons. He's doing well this year but he gives up a lot of hits. Replace Holland and Davis with 2 mid-tier not MLB ready prospects and you might have a chance.
19braves77
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"not MLB ready prospects"
That is were the Indians have failed. The Rays, Marlins, and Twins can groom them but the Indians cant finish products for some reason.
That is were the Indians have failed. The Rays, Marlins, and Twins can groom them but the Indians cant finish products for some reason.
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trevordchi said:
Where to you get 2 good seasons?He was 14-8,22-3,18-5 that 3 pretty good seasons.I agree thats to much to give up.He could have 8-10 wins rightnow if the bullpen wasn't so crappy....
I would like to see them lock him up,but i don't see that happening.I think the RedSox & Dodgers are going to make a serious attemp to get him before the deadline.
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Any team that trades for him now is going to have to cough up some serious value to get him, because he has a club option for next year to go along with what you would get from him for the rest of 2009. This isn't a rent-a-player situation.
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Is this an unbiased look at what the Indians can get for Lee or are you a fan and this is your WISH list? It seems like the latter to me. That is way too much to give up for 1 pitcher who has had 1 great season. It's been said before and I agree. Most GM's wouldn't do that trade for Halladay.
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19braves77 said:
Their offense as it stands is good enough to be a contender, and they do have some guys in the minor leagues who could continue to bolster that offense into the future (LaPorta, Santana, Weglarz, etc.). Their pitching on the other hand, especially the bullpen, sucks. This stems from their drafting and player development. I just hope that Hector Rondon and David Huff can buck that trend and turn things around for the future.
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kdailey4315 said:
He has had more than one great season. 22-3 last season, 18-5 in 2005, and he's pitched well this season too with poor run support. He doesn't command what the Twins got for dealing Johan early, but he won't go on the cheap either. If a team wants him bad enough for the stretch run they will have to put a good package together, and it will have to be packed with near-MLB ready starting pitching. Granted I think the proposed Rangers deal above is a bit extreme.
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Yeah with an ERA+ of 80....Great season there!! ::facepalm::Bornagaincollector said:
This season isn't all that great, yeah ERA is decent but his WHIP isn't that great and leading the league in hits.
If the Indians really got Borbon, Holland, Davis, and Salty for him....phew, steal of the century!
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I doubt we'd even want Salty. We've got Victor and Santana on his way up. I wouldn't mind Holland though.
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