Question for those who grade/re-submit

rob167 · Aug 6, 2009

Here is the run-down, I purchased two Frank Thomas NNOF rookie cards, had them both raw-review graded/authenticated. One came back graded 8.0 (sold for $475), the other graded 8.5. I went ahead and had the 8.5 slabbed and threw it up on eBay with a very high BIN/OBO ($1,500) and I was just offered $750.

Although the offer is very tempting, I am not sure I want to sell it. I have heard of prospectors re-subbing cards for grade bumps and I am curious as to the process involved. What are the odds of a grade-bump? how much does it cost for this? If the centering grade gets bumped to a 9.0, will the overall grade remain 8.5, or will it bump to 9.0?

There are only 4 of these graded 9.0, 18 graded 8.5, with none grading 9.5 or 10.0. If it would bump up to a 9.0, I would imagine the price would go up considerably. I just don't know the likelihood of getting a grade bump, and/or if it is even worth it.

The sub-grades are:

Centering 8.0

Edges 9.0

Corners 8.5

Surface 9.0

Here is a scan:

Frank Thomas 1990 Topps NNOF BGS 8.5

Any and all constructive comments welcome.

lisu · Aug 6, 2009

Usually BGS will only bump subgrades by 0.5 unless they are totally off, so I would say that the odds of bumping that to a 9 will be tough.

rico08 · Aug 6, 2009

The centering, your card's biggest problem, probably isn't going to change. I wouldn't resub.

Mamunrud · Aug 6, 2009

Rob - take the $750 offer and don't look back... As stated above, it would be rare for them to bump a subgrade by more than .5 so you might be just wasting your time and dollars trying that.

rob167 · Aug 6, 2009

Thanks for the input folks. I just didn't know if it had two sub's of 9.0 and two sub's of 8.5, if it would bump the overall grade to a 9.0, or remain 8.5. I literally have zero dollars in this card as the 8.0 I sold covered my initial investment, but if it could bump to a 9.0.............

Thanks again!

1995BBRefractorGuy · Aug 6, 2009

take the money and run, this baby doesn't have a hope in heck for a bump.

rob167 · Aug 7, 2009

I just sold the Thomas for $775.....

Not a bad flip considering I bought two of these for $450 combined. Had them both raw-reviewed at a Chicago show for $10 each. Sold the BGS raw-review 8.0 for $475. Paid another $27 for a ten-day slabbing of the 8.5.

I hear all too often how everyone (or almost everyone) here makes a mint on everything they buy and re-sell (or so it is claimed. :lol: ) It's not very often that the profit gods smile down on me.

Dpanthers14 · Aug 7, 2009

rob167 said:
I just sold the Thomas for $775.....

Not a bad flip considering I bought two of these for $450 combined. Had them both raw-reviewed at a Chicago show for $10 each. Sold the BGS raw-review 8.0 for $475. Paid another $27 for a ten-day slabbing of the 8.5.

I hear all too often how everyone (or almost everyone) here makes a mint on everything they buy and re-sell (or so it is claimed. :lol: ) It's not very often that the profit gods smile down on me.

Very nice sell, I'll give my self one of these ::facepalm:: for not buying it when you offered it to me for what you had into it.

jimmyjam1973 · Aug 7, 2009

Nice flip buddy!!!!!

rob167 said:
I just sold the Thomas for $775.....

Not a bad flip considering I bought two of these for $450 combined. Had them both raw-reviewed at a Chicago show for $10 each. Sold the BGS raw-review 8.0 for $475. Paid another $27 for a ten-day slabbing of the 8.5.

I hear all too often how everyone (or almost everyone) here makes a mint on everything they buy and re-sell (or so it is claimed. :lol: ) It's not very often that the profit gods smile down on me.

HumbleBob · Aug 7, 2009

Great flip. I love hearing these stories.

EricInCT · Aug 7, 2009

Mamunrud said:
Rob - take the $750 offer and don't look back... As stated above, it would be rare for them to bump a subgrade by more than .5 so you might be just wasting your time and dollars trying that.

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Though I can tell you a story:

I had a 2007 blue refractor that was .5 from being gem mint 9.5. I tossed it in my last order and said for 10 bucks if I can get a 9.5 it would almost double the value. It came back as .5 away from being PRISTINE. :shock:

Can you say.....subjective? :lol:

hofautos · Aug 7, 2009

Congrats on your fliop.
I sent my cabrera, hoping for a sub-bump on either the corners or edges...one bump needed for a bgs 9.5...wish me luck! I will find out in 2 months...i just found out 45 day means 45 working days...

i see slight touches but worth the $10 effort!!

EricInCT · Aug 7, 2009

hofautos said:
Congrats on your fliop.
I sent my cabrera, hoping for a sub-bump on either the corners or edges...one bump needed for a bgs 9.5...wish me luck! I will find out in 2 months...i just found out 45 day means 45 working days...

i see slight touches but worth the $10 effort!!

Let's see the back also.

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