Well, Rays Fans, We Have Our Catcher of the Future

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd ... p&c_id=mlb

At least for the next couple of years.

38 years young. ::facepalm::

~ I love Friedman more and more every day. ~

At least it's good news where Wieters is concerned.

tramers · Aug 7, 2009

sounds like Pirates would do that

Brett Keith · Aug 7, 2009

Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

Brett Keith said:
Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Brett Keith · Aug 7, 2009

Jaypers said:
Brett Keith said:

Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

subject to change · Aug 7, 2009

tramers said:
sounds like Pirates would do that

We did. Jose Guillen for Joe Orsulak and Humberto Cota.

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

Brett Keith said:
Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":1yzjfrre]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.[/quote:1yzjfrre]

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....

NECpilgrims8 · Aug 7, 2009

Honestly, What is wrong with this move JP?

Sure, he is on the last leg of his career, but he is a veteran catcher still hitting at a decent clip. It's not like he will catch every game, but it give the rays some backup and breathing time for Navarro.

Heck, it might even kick Navarro into gear a little!

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

NECpilgrims8 said:
Honestly, What is wrong with this move JP?

Sure, he is on the last leg of his career, but he is a veteran catcher still hitting at a decent clip. It's not like he will catch every game, but it give the rays some backup and breathing time for Navarro.

Heck, it might even kick Navarro into gear a little!

If he performs, I'll be happy to eat my words. But it seems as though they always take the low road.....

Brett Keith · Aug 7, 2009

Jaypers said:
Brett Keith said:

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":lv6ph7zc]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Click to expand...

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....[/quote:lv6ph7zc]

I believe they pursued him quite aggressively. They're limited by their budget though, so they would have had to move salary to afford him. Plus, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have been the catcher of the future either, seeing as he's a free agent after next season. So they would have had to move a player, probably Kazmir, for a low price and given up prospects for a season+ of Victor.

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

Brett Keith said:
Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":euasxlgh]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":euasxlgh]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Click to expand...

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....[/quote:euasxlgh]

I believe they pursued him quite aggressively. They're limited by their budget though, so they would have had to move salary to afford him. Plus, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have been the catcher of the future either, seeing as he's a free agent after next season. So they would have had to move a player, probably Kazmir, for a low price and given up prospects for a season+ of Victor.[/quote:euasxlgh]

If they can get more than a full season out of Zaun, I will stand and applaud.

Brett Keith · Aug 7, 2009

Jaypers said:
Brett Keith said:

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":9l3xzoa3]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":9l3xzoa3]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Click to expand...

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

Click to expand...

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....

I believe they pursued him quite aggressively. They're limited by their budget though, so they would have had to move salary to afford him. Plus, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have been the catcher of the future either, seeing as he's a free agent after next season. So they would have had to move a player, probably Kazmir, for a low price and given up prospects for a season+ of Victor.[/quote:9l3xzoa3]

If they can get more than a full season out of Zaun, I will stand and applaud.[/quote:9l3xzoa3]

Ok? This isn't a move for the longterm, this is to improve a weakness to hopefully give them a better chance this year and maybe next.

aaron41984 · Aug 7, 2009

Well, I guess the Wieters show is going full time...

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

Brett Keith said:
Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2b0x99lr]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2b0x99lr]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2b0x99lr]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Click to expand...

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

Click to expand...

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....

I believe they pursued him quite aggressively. They're limited by their budget though, so they would have had to move salary to afford him. Plus, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have been the catcher of the future either, seeing as he's a free agent after next season. So they would have had to move a player, probably Kazmir, for a low price and given up prospects for a season+ of Victor.[/quote:2b0x99lr]

If they can get more than a full season out of Zaun, I will stand and applaud.[/quote:2b0x99lr]

Ok? This isn't a move for the longterm, this is to improve a weakness to hopefully give them a better chance this year and maybe next.[/quote:2b0x99lr]

I'll be more optimistic if this works. But it always baffles me whenever I see them pass on what I consider to be better options available. Not to mention when they passed on drafting catchers such as Stassi...

Exposfan · Aug 7, 2009

Jp- trade you Zaun for Kendall---and a box o' Bats cause Kendall doesn't know how to use 'em.

Brett Keith · Aug 7, 2009

Jaypers said:
Brett Keith said:

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2vbnzxqx]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2vbnzxqx]

Jaypers said:

[quote="Brett Keith":2vbnzxqx]Quality move, he's an upgrade offensively and defensively.

Click to expand...

Absolutely. Who needs V-Mart?

Click to expand...

What does V-Mart have to do with this move being good? They wanted V-Mart, they couldn't get him for whatever reasons.

Click to expand...

I'm curious as to just how aggressively they pursued him, but I'm sure I know already.

And then there's last year, when they passed on Posey.....

Click to expand...

I believe they pursued him quite aggressively. They're limited by their budget though, so they would have had to move salary to afford him. Plus, there's a very good chance he wouldn't have been the catcher of the future either, seeing as he's a free agent after next season. So they would have had to move a player, probably Kazmir, for a low price and given up prospects for a season+ of Victor.

If they can get more than a full season out of Zaun, I will stand and applaud.[/quote:2vbnzxqx]

Ok? This isn't a move for the longterm, this is to improve a weakness to hopefully give them a better chance this year and maybe next.[/quote:2vbnzxqx]

I'll be more optimistic if this works. But it always baffles me whenever I see them pass on what I consider to be better options available. Not to mention when they passed on drafting catchers such as Stassi...[/quote:2vbnzxqx]

I wanted them to draft Stassi as well, but they did draft the guy who most seemed to have rated #1 at the position, but who fell because of an arm injury.

yakacack · Aug 7, 2009

There's been a lot of investigative work done down here recently about the supposed limits of their payroll and essentially what has come from the numbers crunching is that this team HAS the money to go out and get these players if they really wanted but are choosing to use the company line for some reason, who knows if its related to the push back they are getting on the stadium stuff.

Theyve increased prices by a minimum of $1 per ticket, are seeing approximately 3200 more fans in the seats per game right now, with that number most likely to increase as the bandwagon grows towards the end of the year. They took back parking revenues last season and the rules there are still the same this year, 4 or more in a car is free, everyone else is $15 per car. More extra revenue the team had when the fans werent there and they were crying poor. The possibility is there of another playoff series which in and of itself wouldve most likely offset the cost of adding a V-Mart or Lee or whomever.

They arent as limited as theyd have everyone believe, so here's to hoping that maybe all of this money being saved is towards keeping the current team intact as it isnt going anywhere else at this point.

Jaypers · Aug 7, 2009

yakacack said:
There's been a lot of investigative work done down here recently about the supposed limits of their payroll and essentially what has come from the numbers crunching is that this team HAS the money to go out and get these players if they really wanted but are choosing to use the company line for some reason, who knows if its related to the push back they are getting on the stadium stuff.

Theyve increased prices by a minimum of $1 per ticket, are seeing approximately 3200 more fans in the seats per game right now, with that number most likely to increase as the bandwagon grows towards the end of the year. They took back parking revenues last season and the rules there are still the same this year, 4 or more in a car is free, everyone else is $15 per car. More extra revenue the team had when the fans werent there and they were crying poor. The possibility is there of another playoff series which in and of itself wouldve most likely offset the cost of adding a V-Mart or Lee or whomever.

They arent as limited as theyd have everyone believe, so here's to hoping that maybe all of this money being saved is towards keeping the current team intact as it isnt going anywhere else at this point.

I knew it. ::facepalm::

markakis8 · Aug 7, 2009

What are the chances we get Reid Bargnac in return?

Pine Tar · Aug 7, 2009

he is a solid pick up good for the Rays.

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