I'm sure I will get flamed for this but.............

js0000001 · Aug 13, 2009

Looking at he rosters of Nolan Ryan's last teams they all seemed pretty heavily Steroidal.

Could he have been a user?

Could this help explain his longevity?

Now I have to say he has always been one of my favorite players and I would upset it he did use PEDs.

Rudzud · Aug 13, 2009

Not sure why you would get flamed for this

It sure is a possibility...

rico08 · Aug 13, 2009

Beyond Ryan's word (if he's ever asked) and speculation because he played on "steroidal" teams, there's no way to know for sure.

Players used and players still use.

js0000001 · Aug 13, 2009

Maybe that's who Canseco was refering to recently. They did play together

championMan · Aug 13, 2009

Canseco did mention someone in the HOF now is a former Roid User. Since his first book stated Rickey Henderson did it the natural way, his other former teammates that is in HOF does include Ryan

sportscardtheory · Aug 13, 2009

championMan said:
Canseco did mention someone in the HOF now is a former Roid User. Since his first book stated Rickey Henderson did it the natural way, his other former teammates that is in HOF does include Ryan

Who else has he played with that is in the Hall? Maybe we can figure it out bu deduction.

brumbach · Aug 13, 2009

Rickey, Ryan, and Eckersley are the first ones to come to mind. Ryan did pop into my head after Canseco's HOF accusation. At this point I'd be disappointed but not surprised.

leatherman · Aug 13, 2009

sportscardtheory said:
championMan said:

Canseco did mention someone in the HOF now is a former Roid User. Since his first book stated Rickey Henderson did it the natural way, his other former teammates that is in HOF does include Ryan

Click to expand...

Who else has he played with that is in the Hall? Maybe we can figure it out bu deduction.

Hall of Fame hitters who played since 1985 (Canseco's rookie season): http://www.baseball-reference.com/play- ... areit/rRXg

Hall of Fame pitchers who played since 1985: http://www.baseball-reference.com/play- ... areit/RUuj

Did Canseco say they were on the same team, or just in the league at the same time?

David

leatherman · Aug 13, 2009

Wade Boggs and Canseco were on the Rays in 1999.

David

lisu · Aug 13, 2009

leatherman said:
Wade Boggs and Canseco were on the Rays in 1999.

David

I would be disappointed to find out if it was Wade Boggs or Nolan Ryan, but it wouldn't surprise me on either.

leatherman · Aug 13, 2009

Rich Gossage played with Canseco on the A's in 1992.

George K · Aug 13, 2009

Reggie was also a Canseco teammate

THREADKILLER-crohrer · Aug 13, 2009

REGGIE!!!

js0000001 · Aug 13, 2009

Roster for 1993 Texas Rangers Ryan's last year at 46 years old

http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/TEX/1993.shtml

Canseco
Kevin Brown
IRod
Juan Gone
Rafael Palmeiro

Brett Keith · Aug 13, 2009

No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

Billy Packer · Aug 13, 2009

Brett Keith said:
No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

This is baseball's problem. In lieu of any definitive evidence, there will inevitably be speculation. The beast is out there. Don't shoot the messenger.

Brett Keith · Aug 13, 2009

Billy Packer said:
[quote="Brett Keith":mdbkct16]No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

This is baseball's problem. In lieu of any definitive evidence, there will inevitably be speculation. The beast is out there. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote:mdbkct16]

Yes, the beast is out there, stop feeding it.

Anthony K. · Aug 13, 2009

Brett Keith said:
[quote="Billy Packer":19d4b4b6][quote="Brett Keith":19d4b4b6]No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

This is baseball's problem. In lieu of any definitive evidence, there will inevitably be speculation. The beast is out there. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote:19d4b4b6]

Yes, the beast is out there, stop feeding it.[/quote:19d4b4b6]

+1

I don't understand the need to speculate without one GRAIN of a thought from someone CLOSE to the player in some way.

Just because there were juicers on the team is not enough.

Look at the 03 and 07 Red Sox. Should we assume more of those guys were on the juice because of Papi and Manny?

mikekarlovec · Aug 13, 2009

Anthony K. said:
[quote="Brett Keith":2up3rapj][quote="Billy Packer":2up3rapj][quote="Brett Keith":2up3rapj]No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

This is baseball's problem. In lieu of any definitive evidence, there will inevitably be speculation. The beast is out there. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote:2up3rapj]

Yes, the beast is out there, stop feeding it.[/quote:2up3rapj]

+1

I don't understand the need to speculate without one GRAIN of a thought from someone CLOSE to the player in some way.

Just because there were juicers on the team is not enough.

Look at the 03 and 07 Red Sox. Should we assume more of those guys were on the juice because of Papi and Manny?[/quote:2up3rapj]

seems to me that is exactly what the media has been doing this whole time. so i guess the answer is obvious the 03 and 07 red sox were ALL on PED :lol:

predatorkj · Aug 13, 2009

Brett Keith said:
[quote="Billy Packer":zkfx5g6h][quote="Brett Keith":zkfx5g6h]No evidence is enough evidence to start a speculation thread. Nobody here knows, why ask us? It just feeds the beast.

This is baseball's problem. In lieu of any definitive evidence, there will inevitably be speculation. The beast is out there. Don't shoot the messenger.[/quote:zkfx5g6h]

Yes, the beast is out there, stop feeding it.[/quote:zkfx5g6h]

But dammit its hungry! :twisted:

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