Two Jim Rice Topps Originals 1/1's??? Something is fishy...

klute14 · Aug 20, 2009

Probably the most prized possession in my Jim Rice collection is this:

Then I see this listed this morning:

Rice 1/1

I have over 200 certified Rice auto's and I have to say that the one on eBay right now isn't close.

Do you think that Topps would have a record of the card based on the serial # on the back?

I know this possibility has always existed but I have never seen it with a Rice card before.

Thoughts?

A_Pharis · Aug 20, 2009

Report it to Topps if you can. I don't know who signed that card for sale, but it definitely wasn't Rice.
Also, notice how fluid you "01/01" is... the one on eBay looks scribbled with a pen.

pujolsthomefan33 · Aug 20, 2009

99.9% sure that Rice Topps Original on ebay is faked.

However, I do want to add this.....and I believe it was on this very board that someone pulled a sweet spot Jim Rice Autograph that the AUTO looked almost exact to the ebay Topps Originals AUTO----so it could be POSSIBLE that a secretary or assistant sometimes signs for Jim Rice...

TK

ChasHawk · Aug 20, 2009

Look at the completed auctions for this seller. These all look fake to me.

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IMO, these buybacks are one of the biggest mistakes Topps has ever made.

Sad thing is, the completed ones all sold for $100's

uniquebaseballcards · Aug 20, 2009

There have been a TON of originals listed within the last couple months. I just assumed the fake patch card makers have moved into this.

schmidtfan20 · Aug 20, 2009

This really is sad. Guys like the OP are going to get screwed because these cards can't be trusted anymore. I
would now never buy a buy back auto and never trust one. Topps and UD did a poor job on certification.

Kevin

pujolsthomefan33 · Aug 20, 2009

schmidtfan20 said:
This really is sad. Guys like the OP are going to get screwed because these cards can't be trusted anymore. I
would now never buy a buy back auto and never trust one. Topps and UD did a poor job on certification.

Kevin

Kevin,

For the most part I agree with you---but I do have to say Upper Deck did a GOOD job on identifying the Griffey 89 UD AUTO buyback and the Jeter 93 UD AUTO Buyback...

TK

200lbhockeyplayer · Aug 20, 2009

Topps Originals is officially dead...and all people considering these cards should move on.

Until the companies can come up with a better solution, all buyback concepts should be shelved.

It's turned into a complete joke...and I'm glad I moved all of my UD and Originals buybacks over a year ago.

boomo · Aug 20, 2009

sent them an email, mentioned the FBI, see if they respond.

schmidtfan20 · Aug 20, 2009

pujolsthomefan33 said:
schmidtfan20 said:

This really is sad. Guys like the OP are going to get screwed because these cards can't be trusted anymore. I
would now never buy a buy back auto and never trust one. Topps and UD did a poor job on certification.

Kevin

Click to expand...

Kevin,

For the most part I agree with you---but I do have to say Upper Deck did a GOOD job on identifying the Griffey 89 UD AUTO buyback and the Jeter 93 UD AUTO Buyback...

TK

It seems like the Griffey buy back is one of the most forged cards out there. It basically is an 89 UD card
with a seperate by back certificate right? That doesn't sound like a good job to me.

Kevin

UMich92 · Aug 20, 2009

Embossing the cards like Donruss did with the Recollection Collection cards would really help.

Alex

sportscardtheory · Aug 20, 2009

This seller is going on "the list".

nborton · Aug 20, 2009

UMich92 said:
Embossing the cards like Donruss did with the Recollection Collection cards would really help.

Alex

I was just going to say that. Donruss is the only one that did a good job of it.

tunahead · Aug 20, 2009

Check the auctions this seller has won... lots of cheap Upper Deck buybacks and Topps Original buybacks... hmm wonder what they want with those?

http://www.goofbay.com/ebay_bid_his...=60&gbl_submit=&gbl_submit.x=0&gbl_submit.y=0

A_Pharis · Aug 20, 2009

Umm... the Bonds is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO bad.

The Aaron is HORRIBLE...

And did this guy REALLY think that Kobe would sign over his own face? yeah, right. Reported. Look through his completed auctions and see if you can make iut any of the autograph stickers on the backs of the cards he bought (if any have the back scanned). Then see if you can match them up to any that he is selling.

pujolsthomefan33 · Aug 20, 2009

How funny is this......same seller bought a Bonds Buyback with the EXACT same serial numbered HOLO from a completely different bonds auto...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300329528570&category=55954

A_Pharis · Aug 20, 2009

BUSTED!

Selling:

Bought: (look at the cert number)

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... gory=55954

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REPORT THIS.

pujolsthomefan33 · Aug 20, 2009

Seems that is the game he is playing. He is buying the legit ones (Bonds, Jeter, Ripken etc) keeping those and then forging another card and using the Certificate w/HOLO from the card he won to go with the card he forged....

The Topps Originals he is just buying crappy ones and removing the sticker and reusing the cases with his faked copies and putting the stickers on them--he has a Bowman Originals Pujols 1/1 auto that is fake that just sold not that long ago.

100% feedback too....

TK

A_Pharis · Aug 20, 2009

I've already reported both auctions (the fake and original) to eBay and ic3.org (internet crimes division).

ChasHawk · Aug 20, 2009

pujolsthomefan33 said:
Seems that is the game he is playing. He is buying the legit ones (Bonds, Jeter, Ripken etc) keeping those and then forging another card and using the Certificate w/HOLO from the card he won to go with the card he forged....

The Topps Originals he is just buying crappy ones and removing the sticker and reusing the cases with his faked copies and putting the stickers on them--he has a Bowman Originals Pujols 1/1 auto that is fake that just sold not that long ago.

100% feedback too....

TK

Lot of ignorant/uninformed buyers out there, which is why there's a market for this crap :evil:

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