I'm only 20 years late, question about 89' UD boxes

cammy collector · Sep 24, 2009

Can the Griffey be pulled from a high box? I thought it was only low boxes that produced the card, but I've read different. I'd LOVE to crack a box and actually pull one myself but the disparity in price between the two series' is considerable, hence the question. Thanks in advance!

-Mike

justinmandawg · Sep 24, 2009

they are in hi and low

moxacaine · Sep 24, 2009

they are in both however i think they are much harder to pull from the hi.

Viking4Alpha · Sep 24, 2009

moxacaine said:
they are in both however i think they are much harder to pull from the hi.

cgilmo · Sep 24, 2009

and make sure whatever you buy has the factory shrink wrap

the griffey is easily searchable

boomo · Sep 24, 2009

um, how is the griffey searchable?
is his hologram different?

ThoseBackPages · Sep 24, 2009

cgilmo said:
and make sure whatever you buy has the factory shrink wrap

the griffey is easily searchable

they werent shrink wrapped in 1989 i do not believe

brouthercard · Sep 24, 2009

ThoseBackPages said:
cgilmo said:

and make sure whatever you buy has the factory shrink wrap

the griffey is easily searchable

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they werent shrink wrapped in 1989 i do not believe

that is affirmative.

Nothing was shrink wrapped back then.

If you purchased a shrink-wrapped box, then someone did it afterwards (hopefully not after searching all the packs..)

ThoseBackPages · Sep 24, 2009

brouthercard said:
ThoseBackPages said:

cgilmo said:

and make sure whatever you buy has the factory shrink wrap

the griffey is easily searchable

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they werent shrink wrapped in 1989 i do not believe

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that is affirmative.

Nothing was shrink wrapped back then.

If you purchased a shrink-wrapped box, then someone did it afterwards (hopefully not after searching all the packs..)

Thank you for the confirmation. i think UD started shrink wrapping in 1990 witht he high numbers and "Find The Reggie"

i know that UD's 1990/91 Hockey Boxes were shrink wrapped

smapdi · Sep 24, 2009

Each high-number pack has 9 cards #1-700 and 6 701-800, IIRC. So while it's possible to pull card #1, you have a 40% better chance with low series.

They are searchable in that there was a pattern to the collation. People figured out that if you open the pack at the top of a stack and it was card #X, it was very likely that some number of packs below that there was a Griffey. And without being sealed, it was possible to do some shenanigans with searching and shifting packs around for reselling "full" boxes.

Tom Oates · Sep 24, 2009

boomo said:
um, how is the griffey searchable?
is his hologram different?

Generally speaking people will not tell you how to search a product. In this case the product is very old and the information is relatively common knowledge. Back then it was easy to spot a pattern and apply that pattern to other boxes to find the valuable card. I believe that is vague enough that people understand that I am not trying to teach anyone how to pack search but yet specific enough for people to be wary of buying this product. Obviously the vendors make a better attempt at randomization and the pack searchers have found new ways to search. It's a cat and mouse game.. usually... some vendors just don't care and make no effort to deter pack searching. They don't seem to care once they have made the sale and the product leaves their warehouse. It's someone else's problem after that.

Tom

Jeff D · Sep 24, 2009

I bought a box from an unopened case from BBCE a little while back.

I pulled two Griffey's and it was honestly one of the most thrilling collecting moments of my life. I never pulled one as a kid, and when I saw that first one staring at me, I couldn't have been more excited. It honestly felt like I was 12 again, but this time...I got lucky.

If you can find a reputable dealer I would suggest trying your luck 100%.

MattinglyAlexander · Sep 24, 2009

smapdi said:
Each high-number pack has 9 cards #1-700 and 6 701-800, IIRC. So while it's possible to pull card #1, you have a 40% better chance with low series.

They are searchable in that there was a pattern to the collation. People figured out that if you open the pack at the top of a stack and it was card #X, it was very likely that some number of packs below that there was a Griffey. And without being sealed, it was possible to do some shenanigans with searching and shifting packs around for reselling "full" boxes.

[youtube:2zk9j2y5]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_YzwL9-c_w[/youtube:2zk9j2y5]

Not that I searched, but remember the talk of cheaters searching.

mchenrycards · Sep 24, 2009

BAseball Card Exchange has sold many boxes to a number of people I know. Most have pulled Griffeys but it depends on the collation. I would trust BBCE there is no doubt about that.

Mighty Bombjack · Sep 24, 2009

I have an untouched HI # box that I was thinking of putting on the Bay, but I don't know how to convince people that it's unsearched. If it were a LOW #, I could pretty much guarantee at least one Griffey, but I don't know about the HI.

cammy collector · Sep 24, 2009

smapdi said:
Each high-number pack has 9 cards #1-700 and 6 701-800, IIRC. So while it's possible to pull card #1, you have a 40% better chance with low series.

thanks for the contributions everyone! this is exactly what I wanted to know

-Mike

CP_C · Sep 24, 2009

mchenrycards said:
BAseball Card Exchange has sold many boxes to a number of people I know. Most have pulled Griffeys but it depends on the collation. I would trust BBCE there is no doubt about that.

I tacked on 3 low packs to my last order from BBCE just for the heck of it. Pulled a Griffey that came back a PSA 9.

I absolutely trust BBCE.

cammy collector · Sep 24, 2009

CP_C said:
mchenrycards said:

BAseball Card Exchange has sold many boxes to a number of people I know. Most have pulled Griffeys but it depends on the collation. I would trust BBCE there is no doubt about that.

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I tacked on 3 low packs to my last order from BBCE just for the heck of it. Pulled a Griffey that came back a PSA 9.

I absolutely trust BBCE.

SWEEEEET! congrats!

Pinbreaker · Sep 24, 2009

Just a heads up, I have seen boxes where each pack had a Griffey in it...

Enjoy the rip.. Also look for the Dale Murphy Reverse Neg..

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