I got some POPPAGE! PSA 8 - 10's / 3 - 9's & 2 -8's

rookie380 · Sep 26, 2009

This is from the July PSA submission. They poped this morning, just getting to post it!

1 1 15840942 GEM MINT 10 2006 TOPPS TURKEY RED GOLD 608 JONATHAN PAPELBON Card US

2 1 15840943 GEM MINT 10 2008 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BCP55 RYAN STRIEBY XFRACTOR Card US

3 1 15840944 MINT 9 2003 LEAF 60 42 ICHIRO FOIL Card US

4 1 15840945 GEM MINT 10 2009 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BCP72 MICHAEL SWINSON BLUE REFRACTOR Card US

5 1 15840946 GEM MINT 10 2009 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BCP90 MICHAEL CISCO BLUE REFRACTOR Card US

6 1 15840947 GEM MINT 10 2009 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BCP63 DAVID GENAO BLUE REFRACTOR Card US

7 1 15840948 GEM MINT 10 2009 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BCP72 MICHAEL SWINSON XFRACTOR Card US

8 1 15840949 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2008 BOWMAN CHROME 155 KOSUKE FU*UDOME GOLD REFRACTOR Card US

9 1 15840950 GEM MINT 10 2007 BOWMAN CHROME PROSPECTS BC218 NOE RODRIGUEZ BLUE REFRACTOR Card US

10 1 15840951 NEAR MINT-MINT 8 2006 BOWMAN HERITAGE PROSPECTS BHP76 EVAN LONGORIA Card US

11 1 15840952 MINT 9 2001 UPPER DECK PROSPECT PREMIERES 52 DAVID WRIGHT Card US

12 1 15840953 GEM MINT 10 2001 BOWMAN HERITAGE 304 CHASE UTLEY Card US

13 1 15840954 MINT 9 2005 BOWMAN HERITAGE 220 JUSTIN VERLANDER MINI Card US

rookieautos · Sep 26, 2009

Re: I got some POPPAGE! 8 - 10's / 3 - 9's & 2 -8's

Why PSA?

rookie380 · Sep 27, 2009

Re: I got some POPPAGE! 8 - 10's / 3 - 9's & 2 -8's

rookieautos said:
Why PSA?

Why not?

Halonut · Sep 27, 2009

imo psa is far more reputable and reliable than bgs. i have some bgs slabbed cards in my collection but i only buy them when the price is right.

rookie380 · Sep 27, 2009

Halonut said:
imo psa is far more reputable and reliable than bgs. i have some bgs slabbed cards in my collection but i only buy them when the price is right.

Thank you!! & Thanks posted!!

jcmint · Sep 27, 2009

Halonut said:
imo psa WAS far more reputable and reliable than bgs. i have some bgs slabbed cards in my collection but i only buy them when the price is right.

Rickzcards · Sep 27, 2009

I like PSA but personally feel that they are pushovers with their grading. But they do have their following and some people will only buy PSA. Nice grades though!

Jeff D · Sep 27, 2009

I have all three big graders in my collection, and still like PSA for post-war vintage.
The PSA Registry forces me (and it is a force) to buy their slabs for my vintage Aaron collection. And the fact that they seem to care about trimming in a way BGS does not, makes me prefer them for vintage in general.

But I FAR prefer BGS slabs. They are waterproof, UV protected, and the cards don't slide around in the case. Probably most importantly, they are way more tamper-proof than PSA's slabs. Even *** has better cases than PSA.

I know people (especially the old farts that have the monster registries) hate change, but PSA NEEDS to improve their slabs.
The craigslist scams are simple enough proof of that.

And nice poppage!

rookieautos · Sep 27, 2009

Re: I got some POPPAGE! 8 - 10's / 3 - 9's & 2 -8's

rookie380 said:
rookieautos said:

Why PSA?

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Why not?

With modern cards, I would never. The premiums are not there.

rookie380 · Sep 27, 2009

So PSA is a vintage thing, and BGS in modern?

rookieautos · Sep 27, 2009

rookie380 said:
So PSA is a vintage thing, and BGS in modern?

Exactly.

rookie380 · Sep 27, 2009

rookieautos said:
rookie380 said:

So PSA is a vintage thing, and BGS in modern?

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Exactly.

I think its a thing of opinion, but why BSG on the modern stuff?

George_Calfas · Sep 27, 2009

Rickzcards said:
I like PSA but personally feel that they are pushovers with their grading. But they do have their following and some people will only buy PSA. Nice grades though!

I sent in 6 BGS 9.5s for PSA cross-over, 4 came back minimum grade not accepted (they failed to make PSA10)

Jeff D · Sep 27, 2009

George_Calfas said:
Rickzcards said:

I like PSA but personally feel that they are pushovers with their grading. But they do have their following and some people will only buy PSA. Nice grades though!

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I sent in 6 BGS 9.5s for PSA cross-over, 4 came back minimum grade not accepted (they failed to make PSA10)

It's a pretty standard held belief (even amongst PSA loyalists) that they will almost never cross cards to their equivalent grade when it's still in a competitors case. Cracking out and submitting is really the only way to get a fair shake...crossover success is very limited.

One legitimate reason for this is that if they can't tell if a card is unaltered, or can't get a good look at a certain portion of the card (if they suspect a small ding or surface scratch for example) they will just leave it as is. And it is obviously tough to get a real good look at a card in a BGS slab.

But there are many documented cases of trying to get a crossover and it not meeting the min grade, but then resubmitting raw and getting the desired grade (or better). Just as there are initial raw submissions that get undergraded and then cracked out and resubmitted for (sometimes much) higher grades. It's an inexact science, to be sure.

jeff550 · Sep 27, 2009

George_Calfas said:
Rickzcards said:

I like PSA but personally feel that they are pushovers with their grading. But they do have their following and some people will only buy PSA. Nice grades though!

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I sent in 6 BGS 9.5s for PSA cross-over, 4 came back minimum grade not accepted (they failed to make PSA10)

did you crack it out of the slab first.

Nice grades but i prefer bgs for modern but will not buy bvg. but they generate about the same premium if you want to sell them.

George_Calfas · Sep 27, 2009

No, these are still in their BGS cases and will return to me this way.

This is the first time that I have had BGS 9.5s returned not crossed over into PSA10 holders. I do cross over subs several time throughout the year for my PSA registry sets. I have my PSA rep getting me specific reasons why these 4 were kicked back.

jeff550 · Sep 27, 2009

George_Calfas said:
No, these are still in their BGS cases and will return to me this way.

This is the first time that I have had BGS 9.5s returned not crossed over into PSA10 holders. I do cross over subs several time throughout the year for my PSA registry sets. I have my PSA rep getting me specific reasons why these 4 were kicked back.

you cant get an honest opinion unless you crack it out of the case first. but lets see wht your rep has to say

George_Calfas · Sep 27, 2009

It had been standard for PSA to blindly accept BGS 9.5 as a PSa10 due to consumer feelings toward BGS standards. I think this is a part of the PSA push back to re-establish their name and stating that they have high standards as well.

Sorry OP, did not mean to hijack the thread

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