Razor big names bringing in dough

lordsepic · Dec 13, 2008

Not my auction but wow big hits will bring big bucks...

http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-RAZOR-SIGNATUR ... 1|294%3A50

KandKCards · Dec 13, 2008

I mean, I know it'll go higher, but that's like 2x what a base EEE sells for, and it's 100x more scarce. Hardly "big dough"...but when product awareness rises, maybe those things will go higher.

arod305 · Dec 13, 2008

Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

BowmanChromeAddict · Dec 13, 2008

This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

Adamsince1981 · Dec 13, 2008

BowmanChromeAddict said:
This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

BowmanChromAddict gave the CORRECT answer.

Most of the initial listings haven't even ended yet. Also, if you want to compare the 2 thats fine, but if the prices are indeed comparable; then I'd call it a success considering Topps/Bowman operates under a Monopoly and has a MLBPA license and Razor simply had to create this niche on their own.

A_Pharis · Dec 13, 2008

arod305 said:
Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

Dude, compare the number of autos in Razor boxes to the number in Bowman boxes. The value in Razor is far far better... and this is Razor's initial draft release! Bowman has been around HOW MANY YEARS?

That's Well Established Name Vs. Rookie.

Yes... $200+ with time to go is big dough.

jcmint · Dec 13, 2008

KandKCards said:
I mean, I know it'll go higher, but that's like 2x what a base EEE sells for, and it's 100x more scarce. Hardly "big dough"...but when product awareness rises, maybe those things will go higher.

When elite released the weiters was more like 25.00

arod305 · Dec 13, 2008

A_Pharis said:
arod305 said:

Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

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Dude, compare the number of autos in Razor boxes to the number in Bowman boxes. The value in Razor is far far better... and this is Razor's initial draft release! Bowman has been around HOW MANY YEARS?

That's Well Established Name Vs. Rookie.

Yes... $200+ with time to go is big dough.

Yeah the boxes are more expensive and 80% of the autos you get in a box are GARBAGE. Over 3/4 of the checklist is complete garbage

A_Pharis · Dec 13, 2008

arod305 said:
A_Pharis said:

arod305 said:

Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

Click to expand...

Dude, compare the number of autos in Razor boxes to the number in Bowman boxes. The value in Razor is far far better... and this is Razor's initial draft release! Bowman has been around HOW MANY YEARS?

That's Well Established Name Vs. Rookie.

Yes... $200+ with time to go is big dough.

Click to expand...

Yeah the boxes are more expensive and 80% of the autos you get in a box are GARBAGE. Over 3/4 of the checklist is complete garbage

Then the product isn't for you. No need for the constant anti-Razor campaign.

AKA Coastal · Dec 13, 2008

arod305 said:
A_Pharis said:

arod305 said:

Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

Click to expand...

Dude, compare the number of autos in Razor boxes to the number in Bowman boxes. The value in Razor is far far better... and this is Razor's initial draft release! Bowman has been around HOW MANY YEARS?

That's Well Established Name Vs. Rookie.

Yes... $200+ with time to go is big dough.

Click to expand...

Yeah the boxes are more expensive and 80% of the autos you get in a box are GARBAGE. Over 3/4 of the checklist is complete garbage

Someone doesn't know how prospecting works.

Adamsince1981 · Dec 13, 2008

AKA Coastal said:
arod305 said:

[quote="A_Pharis":1db8lru7]

arod305 said:

Yeah 5 cards from the whole set. That really isn't big dough in BDP terms

Click to expand...

Dude, compare the number of autos in Razor boxes to the number in Bowman boxes. The value in Razor is far far better... and this is Razor's initial draft release! Bowman has been around HOW MANY YEARS?

That's Well Established Name Vs. Rookie.

Yes... $200+ with time to go is big dough.

Click to expand...

Yeah the boxes are more expensive and 80% of the autos you get in a box are GARBAGE. Over 3/4 of the checklist is complete garbage

Someone doesn't know how prospecting works.[/quote:1db8lru7]

Every post he makes in a Razor thread is a negative one.

KandKCards · Dec 13, 2008

Adamsince1981 said:
BowmanChromeAddict said:

This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

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BowmanChromAddict gave the CORRECT answer.

Most of the initial listings haven't even ended yet. Also, if you want to compare the 2 thats fine, but if the prices are indeed comparable; then I'd call it a success considering Topps/Bowman operates under a Monopoly and has a MLBPA license and Razor simply had to create this niche on their own.

Where did I compare it to topps/bowman? I compared it to a card that actually exists, not a hypothetical card.
My issue with the product is the fact that this card is THE card in the set. When you open a box, you're hoping to pull a /5 of Beckham or Wieters. Let's go ahead and just say it doubles in price before it ends (which is generous). That means the best card in the set is worth $500. That just doesn't seem high enough for me.

Adamsince1981 · Dec 13, 2008

KandKCards said:
Adamsince1981 said:

BowmanChromeAddict said:

This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

Click to expand...

BowmanChromAddict gave the CORRECT answer.

Most of the initial listings haven't even ended yet. Also, if you want to compare the 2 thats fine, but if the prices are indeed comparable; then I'd call it a success considering Topps/Bowman operates under a Monopoly and has a MLBPA license and Razor simply had to create this niche on their own.

Click to expand...

Where did I compare it to topps/bowman? I compared it to a card that actually exists, not a hypothetical card.
My issue with the product is the fact that this card is THE card in the set. When you open a box, you're hoping to pull a /5 of Beckham or Wieters. Let's go ahead and just say it doubles in price before it ends (which is generous). That means the best card in the set is worth $500. That just doesn't seem high enough for me.

I didn't respond to you. I simply agreed with BCA and added a little of my own opinion. Do you need a nap?

AKA Coastal · Dec 13, 2008

KandKCards said:
Adamsince1981 said:

BowmanChromeAddict said:

This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

Click to expand...

BowmanChromAddict gave the CORRECT answer.

Most of the initial listings haven't even ended yet. Also, if you want to compare the 2 thats fine, but if the prices are indeed comparable; then I'd call it a success considering Topps/Bowman operates under a Monopoly and has a MLBPA license and Razor simply had to create this niche on their own.

Click to expand...

Where did I compare it to topps/bowman? I compared it to a card that actually exists, not a hypothetical card.
My issue with the product is the fact that this card is THE card in the set. When you open a box, you're hoping to pull a /5 of Beckham or Wieters. Let's go ahead and just say it doubles in price before it ends (which is generous). That means the best card in the set is worth $500. That just doesn't seem high enough for me.

Do you really not understand how the prospect game works? 04-08 Donruss Elite doesn't have HUGE pulls ,but plenty of people including myself have made money on it. There's two things Razor did wrnog with this set. They numbered the base autographs and didn't create a 1/1 card for every player. Other than that its damn near perfect. PLENTY of money will made from this set down the road.

trademhigh · Dec 13, 2008

BowmanChromeAddict said:
This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

If Bowman Chrome had a Red Ref Auto of his, it would say FIRST Bowman Chrome card. With that being said, it would sell way higher as bowman chrome, so I don't see how you can say that's a lot of money for a Wieters Auto/5. Of course, it's hard to compare with Razor being unlicensed and it's its first Prospect set, but even still.

trademhigh · Dec 13, 2008

jcmint said:
KandKCards said:

I mean, I know it'll go higher, but that's like 2x what a base EEE sells for, and it's 100x more scarce. Hardly "big dough"...but when product awareness rises, maybe those things will go higher.

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When elite released the weiters was more like 25.00

How is that a fair comparison? That was way before wieters got recognition.

jet0002 · Dec 13, 2008

trademhigh said:
jcmint said:

KandKCards said:

I mean, I know it'll go higher, but that's like 2x what a base EEE sells for, and it's 100x more scarce. Hardly "big dough"...but when product awareness rises, maybe those things will go higher.

Click to expand...

When elite released the weiters was more like 25.00

Click to expand...

How is that a fair comparison? That was way before wieters got recognition.

The price now is before razor gets recognition.

Adamsince1981 · Dec 13, 2008

trademhigh said:
BowmanChromeAddict said:

This is a second year card of Wieters and isn't even completed yet. That is big money at this point for that card with the potential to go higher.

Click to expand...

If Bowman Chrome had a Red Ref Auto of his, it would say FIRST Bowman Chrome card. With that being said, it would sell way higher as bowman chrome, so I don't see how you can say that's a lot of money for a Wieters Auto/5.

Wieters has a 2007 Elite autograph. This Razor version is an unlicensed 2nd year autograph going for over $200.

A 2008 BC Wieters Red Refractor auto would go for more than a Razor, but that would be his first card by a company that holds a MLBPA license.

lordsepic · Dec 14, 2008

trademhigh said:
jcmint said:

KandKCards said:

I mean, I know it'll go higher, but that's like 2x what a base EEE sells for, and it's 100x more scarce. Hardly "big dough"...but when product awareness rises, maybe those things will go higher.

Click to expand...

When elite released the weiters was more like 25.00

Click to expand...

How is that a fair comparison? That was way before wieters got recognition.

Every prospector new of wieters before that card... the guy has the tools to be a very feared catchers for a long while.

ThoseBackPages · Dec 14, 2008

its only at twice the cost of a box. it will have to top $500 to be impressive.

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