One of my favorite cards available again

If I come up with $200K, can I just have the Johnson and Matty?
Pentuple-HOFers

Whats the story with this card?
Is this the one where there were some concerns as to the authenticity of the autos?

if so, was it ever cleared up? good or bad?

Wow, how many ebay bucks would this auction net...

that is just plain insane

JzWand said:

Whats the story with this card?
Is this the one where there were some concerns as to the authenticity of the autos?

if so, was it ever cleared up? good or bad?

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I think the Ruth and 1 or 2 others were in question. As far as I know UD said they were authentic, but premier top tier auto collectors didn't agree

And while I'm no expert on Mathewson, I don't like the Mathewson signature at all.

wolfmanalfredo said:

JzWand said:

Whats the story with this card?
Is this the one where there were some concerns as to the authenticity of the autos?

if so, was it ever cleared up? good or bad?

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I think the Ruth and 1 or 2 others were in question. As far as I know UD said they were authentic, but premier top tier auto collectors didn't agree

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that wasn't this card, was it???


Also, i take it this is a "booklet" card? I had no idea BGS was slabbing these types of cards.

I believe UD replaced the questionable signatures.

They also provided the seller, as compensation, unique cards made specifically for him (if you recall the Tiger Woods listed a few months ago on eBay).

JzWand said:

Whats the story with this card?
Is this the one where there were some concerns as to the authenticity of the autos?

if so, was it ever cleared up? good or bad?

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The card you're referring too was a quad (Ruth, Walter Jonhson, Mathewson and one I can't remember right now) from UD
And I think the final consensus was that they were fakes.

r2d2 said:

JzWand said:

Whats the story with this card?
Is this the one where there were some concerns as to the authenticity of the autos?

if so, was it ever cleared up? good or bad?

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The card you're referring too was a quad (Ruth, Walter Jonhson, Mathewson and one I can't remember right now) from UD
And I think the final consensus was that they were fakes.

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Yeah, thats what i thought. This is the card that was suppose to have the fake Ruth cut...

I believe the Ruth cut above was a Greg Marino fake ^^^^^^^^^^^

This guy sounds like he was more than compensated.

The original card in question was from 2005 legendary cuts, the quad auto signature.

This is what I think is going on. To avoid a major hit to their reputation, UD sent this guy some serious hush/hush compensation, including a special 1/1 dual auto jersey Lebron/Jordan, a special dual auto jersey Tiger Woods 1/1, and apparently this card as well. I'm sure the law suit against upper deck was probably going to be in the hundreds of thousands, so this was probably given to him as well to shut him up, plus it's cheaper than going to court. Upper Deck gets away without a tarnished reputation, this guy is "happy", and UD will continue peddling their questionable products.

I wonder if historically there has ever been a successful lawsuit against the card companies? I remember there was the 1996 finest Maddux gold refractor fiasco as well as a Jagr gold refractor controversy?

What a shame, I love that card. On a side note, I keep searching for a nice Walter Johnson autograph....I think that would be a nice "corner stone" for my collection.

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brouthercard said:

as well as a Jagr gold refractor controversy?

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Heres the story behind the Jaromir Jagr Topps cards...


http://a.espncdn.com/sportsbusiness/s/2 ... 80511.html

uniquebaseballcards said:

Wow, how many ebay bucks would this auction net...

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$200.

uniquebaseballcards said:

Wow, how many ebay bucks would this auction net...

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Isn't $200 the maximum?

trademhigh said:

uniquebaseballcards said:

Wow, how many ebay bucks would this auction net...

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Isn't $200 the maximum?

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Correct