All this HOF talk got me thinking

Fandruw25 · Jan 7, 2010

Should the hall standardize what gets you in? Meaning use something like baseball references HOF monitor or set statistics. Take away the guessing game and just say if you get X stats you're in...you don't, you're not. All this talk about so and so shouldn't be there, or so and so should have been in, etc... has got me wondering.

Should they and why or why not?

17ROCKIES12 · Jan 7, 2010

No. Jackie Robinson is the first example that comes to mind.

Fandruw25 · Jan 7, 2010

17ROCKIES12 said:
No. Jackie Robinson is the first example that comes to mind.

I think ***** leagues should be an exemption..I'm talking modern day.

zookerman182 · Jan 7, 2010

no way standardized. It sucks as it is but standardizing would make it even worse.

Sly · Jan 7, 2010

Hell no.

Certain players bring certain things to the game. And once you look at "just stats", you take away from great defensive players like Ozzie Smith and Brooks Robinson.

Plus, those "set stats" may change based on the era. 500 HR's now is nothing compared to 500 HR's 20-years ago. 300 wins 50 years ago is nothing compared to 300 wins now based on pitchers pitching less games.

The process is fine, it's just garbage some of the reasoning that voters use (ie. won't vote for anyone on the first ballot).

mredsox89 · Jan 7, 2010

No. While standardizing would stop this voting mess, instead we would be arguing about the standards. Certain players just have that extra something that makes them HOF worthy.

jmc280zx · Jan 7, 2010

No its the hall of fame not the hall of statistics...

How well a player is/was liked plays a part in them getting in...

Sly · Jan 7, 2010

Let me also add...

How would it be fair to consider 500 HR's for a Shortstop or a 2nd Baseman, or even a Catcher.

Different stats would be needed for each position.

And mredsox89 is absolutely right...we'd all be bitching about the "standards".

uniquebaseballcards · Jan 7, 2010

Would never cross my mind. If you were going to do that, you'd need to replace the umps with computers. Players would be playing for stats only. The game would be completely boring.

17ROCKIES12 · Jan 7, 2010

Fandruw25 said:
17ROCKIES12 said:

No. Jackie Robinson is the first example that comes to mind.

Click to expand...

I think ***** leagues should be an exemption..I'm talking modern day.

He was barely in the ***** Leagues. My point was that he did something great for the game (and belongs in the HOF) but didn't have amazing career numbers.

If you are only talking about from now on it doesn't make sense for similar reasons. If Ichiro retired today, his career totals wouldn't make him stand out as much as you look at his accomplishments.

Just looking at numbers would never be the right thing to do. Accomplishments, feats, and things career stats are all things that create "fame".

GTJ558 · Jan 7, 2010

Sly said:
Let me also add...

How would it be fair to consider 500 HR's for a Shortstop or a 2nd Baseman, or even a Catcher.

Different stats would be needed for each position.

And mredsox89 is absolutely right...we'd all be bitching about the "standards".

400 HRs for a Catcher and longevity is a big deal with this position certainly. Position difficulty means a lot in terms of stats....catchers get beat up, shortstops captain the infield, centerfielders are most often the best outfielders on their respective team...I have a friend who does not take this into account and we argue about it all the time...seems to me, the problem is the sportswriters who vote for it....players from the era should have a say in it.

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