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Re: What kind of multiplier should a bgs 10 pristine get?
Probably $120. I assume you're talking Vitters, and I've seen those sell $85-120 or so.
I bought my Gilmore BGS 10 for $35, raws get about $5. Figure 6-10x multiplier for cheap guys, 4-7x for bigger names.
Probably $120. I assume you're talking Vitters, and I've seen those sell $85-120 or so.
I bought my Gilmore BGS 10 for $35, raws get about $5. Figure 6-10x multiplier for cheap guys, 4-7x for bigger names.
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Re: What kind of multiplier should a bgs 10 pristine get?
It really all depends on the player, along with their popularity. The best price to use a multiplier on are the BGS 9.5 copies.
Using a multiplier on raw copies for Pristine grade is too drastic of a difference.
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It really all depends on the player, along with their popularity. The best price to use a multiplier on are the BGS 9.5 copies.
Using a multiplier on raw copies for Pristine grade is too drastic of a difference.
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Re: What kind of multiplier should a bgs 10 pristine get?
The most I paid was x14 book, it was an older card and I had the only other 10, newer stuff doesn't multiply that high and there seems to be more (in part because so much more of the chrome stuff is submitted), I agree with NEC....
The most I paid was x14 book, it was an older card and I had the only other 10, newer stuff doesn't multiply that high and there seems to be more (in part because so much more of the chrome stuff is submitted), I agree with NEC....
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to me it always comes back to the set....
IN sterling every other card is a 9.5, so I don't give as much love to the 10's because there is probably going to be (50-75) 10's out there at some point. It is still a nice card, but let's say it was a blue refractor with (15 9.5's out there), then I would assume the 10 is much tougher to get and would get a much higher multiplier in my eyes...
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IN sterling every other card is a 9.5, so I don't give as much love to the 10's because there is probably going to be (50-75) 10's out there at some point. It is still a nice card, but let's say it was a blue refractor with (15 9.5's out there), then I would assume the 10 is much tougher to get and would get a much higher multiplier in my eyes...
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Only 5 years ago only about 10 BGS 10s existed, now there are thousands.
BGS 9.5 used to be something you hoped for, now it's something you expect.
Grading is completely subjective.
That being said, the difference between a BGS 9.5 and a BGS 10 are often so subtle that if re-graded, I would imagine many (25%) BGS 9.5s could get the (not so) elusive BGS 10. I personally do not consider the difference between a BGS 10 and BGS 9.5 as great as BGS 9.5 to BGS 9.0...yet they both only differ by half a point.
BGS 9.5 used to be something you hoped for, now it's something you expect.
Grading is completely subjective.
That being said, the difference between a BGS 9.5 and a BGS 10 are often so subtle that if re-graded, I would imagine many (25%) BGS 9.5s could get the (not so) elusive BGS 10. I personally do not consider the difference between a BGS 10 and BGS 9.5 as great as BGS 9.5 to BGS 9.0...yet they both only differ by half a point.
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Of course? No, not of course. Condition sensitivity SHOULD be taken into account when buying ANY graded card. Sterling is EASY to grade, very easy to get a 9.5 and easier than any other brand to get a 10. That is my point.
You must take that into account any time you buy a graded card. My point is that if there are 350 9.5's out there, then there will likely be some 10's. If there are 15 9.5's out there, well good luck finding that 10.
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You must take that into account any time you buy a graded card. My point is that if there are 350 9.5's out there, then there will likely be some 10's. If there are 15 9.5's out there, well good luck finding that 10.
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200lbhockeyplayer said:
Your statements are completely over exaggerated.
I don't know if you grade, but to say that 1/4 of the gems would regrade to a BGS 10 is just ridiculous. I am a grader, in mass amounts, and you have no idea how few BGS 10's come out vs. bgs 9.5's (and my orders are MG 9.5).
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NECpilgrims8 said:
BGS is a constantly evolving beast, a beast that has gotten easier to beat than in years past.
Surely you remember when a BGS 9 was a good grade, now it's not even worth slabbing. A BGS 9.5 was rare, and now they are commonplace. Now perhaps I was misleading in stating that 25% of all BGS 9.5s could get bumped to a BGS 10, maybe it's 15%...but in another 5 years, I think 25% or more will probably be dead on correct. And keep in mind, I'm talking about getting something re-graded, not going from raw to BGS 10.
And yes, I do grade, surely not as much as you, but I do enough to know how shady most of this is. And I'm a firm believer that if you're not getting grade bumps, you're not trying hard enough.
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200lbhockeyplayer said:
BGS has gotten easier to "beat" than in years past, more 9.5s and certainly more 10s coming out there is no doubt about it. However, I think the % of 9.5s that would regrade to a 10 is in the single digits, likely, the low single digits.
I've graded roughly 3,000 cards in the past year, my total 10s have been 9, I do believe. So .3% of my raw cards graded out as a BGS 10. Of the 9.5s, of which I hit probably 45% or so, I'd say 1/50 at the most had the subs of 9.5, 9.5, 10, 10, which you could put back in for the bumps.
I know there are a lot more 10s out there, but there are also a lot more graders out there, so that makes those very very small %s seem so much bigger. If anything I've seen more 9.5s with the subs 9.5, 9.5, 9.5, 9 this past year than before.
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masonphillip said:
Agreed.
I have had many, many, 9.5s, and still have not subbed a 10.
BGS has gotten much easier, but I think they are slowly heading back to being tougher.
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