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matchpenalty

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Where they are questioned to be signed by someone else/ auto pen ect?

Isn't their a couple questionable 1997 Donruss Signatures. Colby Rasmus 05 Sterling I think it is, where Topps stickers are questionable.

I know in football has few well know ones from Proline. Where auto pen was used.
 

matchpenalty

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Anyone remember who Donruss Signature was of? Pretty sure Beckett even did a story on it. The autos were very very different. I think the speculation was some were signed by the guys wife.
 

vwnut13

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55_marlins_sp said:
Wasn't there a '09 TTT Pujols that seemed off ?


The person who "discovered" this is what you call know-it-alls that don't know much.

The card had stickers that Pujols signed eary on in his career, that Topps used on these cards.

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(I think we need this "RollsEyes" icon)
 

DRav87

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Johnny Cueto autos:

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!BsLkC(gEGk~$(KGrHqUH-CkEvEs)9l,BBL25fBLUHQ~~_12.jpg
!Bpfcz5wBGk~$(KGrHqUH-CEEumu4CURoBLrn2Rpbk!~~_12.jpg

VS:

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!BqtGrhQBmk~$(KGrHqYH-E!Ev!nEIhm9BLwiyllcbQ~~_12.jpg

Now I know people are going to say "he probably just changed his signature, it happens a lot". Well if that is the case then try explaining this:


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!BhvL!SwBWk~$(KGrHqYH-EIEsNOPmmBOBLKlu-ZqLw~~_12.jpg

Did he switch his signature in the middle of a signing session? Also the 2 signatures are not even close so even if he did sign the cards in 2 sessions that would be a drastic change. I don't know what the deal is with the 2 autos but it makes you wonder.
 

AmishDave

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And these JJ's of mine have always puzzled me:

Normal JJ auto:

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Questionable JJ auto:

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F-Topps

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I once pulled a Lars Anderson Bowman Chrome Certified Auto that had the stamp and everything... except the auto was missing. Topps sent me a replacement that was centered worse than any card I have ever pulled. Thanks Topps! When I pulled the card I sold another one for $99.99. By the time I had my replacement they were selling for about $35 ::facepalm::
 

matchpenalty

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Cueto one is odd. I know when I got him in person he signed like the top 3 versions. I wonder if anyone has seen him sign in person those other versions. Where it's printed
 

RZimm11

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I've seen posts about Tony Gwynn Sr cards with his son's stickers on them.

Same with Frank Thomas (recent White Sox) having Frank Thomas (60s retired Pirates) stickers on them.
 

G $MONEY$

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interesting topic. Id like to see more examples if they are out there.

Going back to the proline Football autos wasn't Jim Kelly an autopen as well?
 

andyduke86

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Reds in 2009 said:
Johnny Cueto autos:

!BsRbgyQCWk~$(KGrHqEOKkEEvNsEoVIIBL3TnKfDO!~~_12.jpg
!BsLkC(gEGk~$(KGrHqUH-CkEvEs)9l,BBL25fBLUHQ~~_12.jpg
!Bpfcz5wBGk~$(KGrHqUH-CEEumu4CURoBLrn2Rpbk!~~_12.jpg

VS:

!BehQiDg!Wk~$(KGrHqQOKiwEry5Q,uzbBK9qt2qgCw~~_12.jpg
!BqtGrhQBmk~$(KGrHqYH-E!Ev!nEIhm9BLwiyllcbQ~~_12.jpg

Now I know people are going to say "he probably just changed his signature, it happens a lot". Well if that is the case then try explaining this:


!BpHq4lg!Wk~$(KGrHqMOKisEuZLMURsgBLqBlgine!~~_12.jpg
!BhvL!SwBWk~$(KGrHqYH-EIEsNOPmmBOBLKlu-ZqLw~~_12.jpg

Did he switch his signature in the middle of a signing session? Also the 2 signatures are not even close so even if he did sign the cards in 2 sessions that would be a drastic change. I don't know what the deal is with the 2 autos but it makes you wonder.

Cueto does indeed have several versions of his signature. All of those pictured are real.
 

trademhigh

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matchpenalty said:
Cueto one is odd. I know when I got him in person he signed like the top 3 versions. I wonder if anyone has seen him sign in person those other versions. Where it's printed
Check his Bowman Chrome cards. Almost certain the facsimile is signed out in print. JOHNNY CUETO like that.
 

JoshHamilton

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trademhigh said:
matchpenalty said:
Cueto one is odd. I know when I got him in person he signed like the top 3 versions. I wonder if anyone has seen him sign in person those other versions. Where it's printed
Check his Bowman Chrome cards. Almost certain the facsimile is signed out in print. JOHNNY CUETO like that.

When Topps doesn't have a facsimile/copy of his contract available, they use random MS Word fonts. Some are pretty comical.
 

Mr.Whipple

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Boomer Esiason also had a autopen in Proline, I was lucky enough to pull one. I broke their balls over it for a good 2 years after pulling it. Called the NFL over it and they really didnt care much. But being stamped 100% authentic and such and having the NFL logo on the stamp didnt matter to them also. I finally did get something for it in the end, A few packs of proline and they contained crap.
 

DRav87

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trademhigh said:
matchpenalty said:
Cueto one is odd. I know when I got him in person he signed like the top 3 versions. I wonder if anyone has seen him sign in person those other versions. Where it's printed
Check his Bowman Chrome cards. Almost certain the facsimile is signed out in print. JOHNNY CUETO like that.

Yeah here is what his Bowman facsimile signature looks like:

CuetoRed.jpg
 

DRav87

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I have always wondered about Kentwan Balmer's (football player) autographs as well:

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!BnJc2mQBGk~$(KGrHqQH-CwEtrN4QK5UBLi(ZdTmkw~~_12.jpg

VS

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I am pretty sure the bottom 2 autos were signed my a girl friend or something.
 

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