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bouwob

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tied for 6th in baseball.

Has a closer/reliever ever ended up in the top 10 for wins?
 

mudflap02

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Am I the only one who thinks that whichever player has thrown the most pitches should get the win or the loss? At least it would make the stats line up with the years from 1900 to 2000. Tyler Clippard has 7 wins as the Nats' setup man. Kevin Millwood has zero home wins this year, but the Orioles are 4-1 in games he's started at home. How is that fair to him?
 

markakis8

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Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. A pitcher could throw 125 pitches in 5 innings and come out losing 10-2....his team could come back and win and he deserves the W b/c he threw 125 pitches?

A relief pitcher will never win more than 12-13 games in a season and that's if they are EXTREMELY lucky the ENTIRE year. So its nothing to worry about.

IMO, if you want the win, find a way to stay in the game.

mudflap02 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that whichever player has thrown the most pitches should get the win or the loss? At least it would make the stats line up with the years from 1900 to 2000. Tyler Clippard has 7 wins as the Nats' setup man. Kevin Millwood has zero home wins this year, but the Orioles are 4-1 in games he's started at home. How is that fair to him?
 

andyduke86

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As if it was needed, just further proof why the "win" stat for pitchers is irrelevant and should never even be considered in evaluating a player.
 

andyduke86

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markakis8 said:
Kind of ridiculous if you ask me. A pitcher could throw 125 pitches in 5 innings and come out losing 10-2....his team could come back and win and he deserves the W b/c he threw 125 pitches?

A relief pitcher will never win more than 12-13 games in a season and that's if they are EXTREMELY lucky the ENTIRE year. So its nothing to worry about.

IMO, if you want the win, find a way to stay in the game.

mudflap02 said:
Am I the only one who thinks that whichever player has thrown the most pitches should get the win or the loss? At least it would make the stats line up with the years from 1900 to 2000. Tyler Clippard has 7 wins as the Nats' setup man. Kevin Millwood has zero home wins this year, but the Orioles are 4-1 in games he's started at home. How is that fair to him?

Actually, the team gets the win or loss, not any individual player. Maybe if a pitcher throws a shutout and hits a HR, I'd consider giving him a win then and only then. I'd just consider it though.
 

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