Mark Prior and Stephen Strasburg - 10 Similarities

bradical said:

One big difference: Mechanics.

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masonphillip said:

bradical said:

One big difference: Mechanics.

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Everyone thought Prior's were perfect when he came up, his delivery was effortless.

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chashawk said:

While I will be the 1st one to call Dusty a terrible manager, there are many(including Nolan Ryan)who blame pitch counts for many of the injuries of the last 10 or so years.

That being said, Prior's injury had absolutely nothing to do with pitching. And yes, his mechanics were said to be "flawless" as well.

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notjomommasclint said:

you forgot the socks man! the SOCKS!

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masonphillip said:

chashawk said:

While I will be the 1st one to call Dusty a terrible manager, there are many(including Nolan Ryan)who blame pitch counts for many of the injuries of the last 10 or so years.

That being said, Prior's injury had absolutely nothing to do with pitching. And yes, his mechanics were said to be "flawless" as well.

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You are right, there is a school of thought out that says that pitchers are weaker now and more prone to injury due to increased focus on pitch counts. They have a lot of very valid arguments.

Here is a list of Prior's injuries, the arm stuff starts a lot later, the earlier injuries are just odd - like the Marcus Giles collision.

Date Injury Time Inactive

September 2002 - Strained hamstring while running the bases - Rest of season

Midseason 2003 - Shoulder after on-field collision with former Atlanta Braves second baseman Marcus Giles. - 3 Starts

Preseason 2004 - Achilles tendon injury - 2 months

Preseason 2005 - Elbow strain - 15 days

May 27, 2005 - Throwing elbow - comeback line drive off the bat of Brad Hawpe - 1 month

Preseason 2006 - Strained shoulder - 3 Months

July 14, 2006 - Strained left oblique in batting practice - 2 starts

August 14, 2006 - Shoulder tendinitis - Rest of 2006 Season

Spring Training 2007 - Shoulder surgery - Entire 2007 Season

March 26, 2008 - Shoulder surgery recovery - First part of 2008 season (60 day DL)

May 16, 2008 - A tear in the capsule of his pitching shoulder; shoulder surgery - Out for another six to eight weeks (60 day DL); out for the entire season

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bballcardkid said:

masonphillip said:

chashawk said:

While I will be the 1st one to call Dusty a terrible manager, there are many(including Nolan Ryan)who blame pitch counts for many of the injuries of the last 10 or so years.

That being said, Prior's injury had absolutely nothing to do with pitching. And yes, his mechanics were said to be "flawless" as well.

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You are right, there is a school of thought out that says that pitchers are weaker now and more prone to injury due to increased focus on pitch counts. They have a lot of very valid arguments.

Here is a list of Prior's injuries, the arm stuff starts a lot later, the earlier injuries are just odd - like the Marcus Giles collision.

Date Injury Time Inactive

September 2002 - Strained hamstring while running the bases - Rest of season

Midseason 2003 - Shoulder after on-field collision with former Atlanta Braves second baseman Marcus Giles. - 3 Starts

Preseason 2004 - Achilles tendon injury - 2 months

Preseason 2005 - Elbow strain - 15 days

May 27, 2005 - Throwing elbow - comeback line drive off the bat of Brad Hawpe - 1 month

Preseason 2006 - Strained shoulder - 3 Months

July 14, 2006 - Strained left oblique in batting practice - 2 starts

August 14, 2006 - Shoulder tendinitis - Rest of 2006 Season

Spring Training 2007 - Shoulder surgery - Entire 2007 Season

March 26, 2008 - Shoulder surgery recovery - First part of 2008 season (60 day DL)

May 16, 2008 - A tear in the capsule of his pitching shoulder; shoulder surgery - Out for another six to eight weeks (60 day DL); out for the entire season

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I remember watching the Marcus Giles incident. I remember the overall mood at Wrigley watching the game turned 180 degrees in an instant. To me, that was the beginning of the demise of Prior looking back. His arm didn't go blah and it wasn't Dusty's fault as everyone says. Just freak injuries on the field took him out.

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