A few 2010 Allen & Ginter cards starting to show up

masonphillip · Jun 29, 2010

I don't think I really like the way the autos look but decide for yourself.

[phil:3sdjmllo]290449626650[/phil:3sdjmllo] - Heyward Mini A&G Back
[phil:3sdjmllo]290449625432[/phil:3sdjmllo] - Gallardo Auto
[phil:3sdjmllo]290449624379[/phil:3sdjmllo] - Cano Relic

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I think we'll start seeing a flood of these hit ebay later today and tomorrow.

George_Calfas · Jun 29, 2010

The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

masonphillip · Jun 29, 2010

George_Calfas said:
The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

I agree, its just ugly.

Pine Tar · Jun 29, 2010

I kind of like them.

George_Calfas · Jun 29, 2010

masonphillip said:
George_Calfas said:

The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

schmidtfan20 · Jun 29, 2010

George_Calfas said:
masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":1uo47lzd]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.[/quote:1uo47lzd]

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.

So what is the deal with the frames of the autos? Can the mini slide under them? This hasn't been a problem in the
past, I love the red, but whats up with that?

KEvin

onenineeightsix · Jun 29, 2010

The inner red border is built into the frame of where the mini card sits; so depending on which side you slide the mini to it kinda sneaks underneath partially. It isnt enough to cover the auto but it is kind of irritating. I dont see why they had to do that.

SeattleSports · Jun 29, 2010

I'm busting 2 of my 11 cases this afternoon.

I woke up at 5am and just stared straight up at the ceiling... waiting for UPS.

haha

George_Calfas · Jun 29, 2010

schmidtfan20 said:
George_Calfas said:

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":1w8lgjvu]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.[/quote:1w8lgjvu]

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.

schmidtfan20 · Jun 29, 2010

George_Calfas said:
schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":11rnw5tl]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":11rnw5tl]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.[/quote:11rnw5tl]

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:11rnw5tl]

You will never see a checklist like 2006...why would topps even do that when they have proven they can sell the
product with lesser names on it, topps basically sold the product by inserting a mini card of Strasburg which in the
end costs topps nothing. I wonder why topps won't tell me how many redemptions are in this product?

KEvin

Bob Loblaw · Jun 29, 2010

schmidtfan20 said:
George_Calfas said:

schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":lbby0yoo]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":lbby0yoo]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Click to expand...

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:lbby0yoo]

You will never see a checklist like 2006...why would topps even do that when they have proven they can sell the
product with lesser names on it, topps basically sold the product by inserting a mini card of Strasburg which in the
end costs topps nothing. I wonder why topps won't tell me how many redemptions are in this product?

KEvin[/quote:lbby0yoo]

The product was sold before Strasburg.

SeattleSports · Jun 29, 2010

George_Calfas said:
schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":2taww92f]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":2taww92f]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.[/quote:2taww92f]

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:2taww92f]

He's on the checklist, just sent it to you.

masonphillip · Jun 29, 2010

schmidtfan20 said:
George_Calfas said:

schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":hkryfmn3]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":hkryfmn3]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Click to expand...

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:hkryfmn3]

You will never see a checklist like 2006...why would topps even do that when they have proven they can sell the
product with lesser names on it, topps basically sold the product by inserting a mini card of Strasburg which in the
end costs topps nothing. I wonder why topps won't tell me how many redemptions are in this product?

KEvin[/quote:hkryfmn3]

2006 was a once in a great while kind of deal, they have to do that when they are marketing the product for the first time. Once people are sold on the concept (as many are on A&G) they can water the C/L down some and still sell it.

I don't know what Topps paid Strasburg for the exclusive but whatever it was, it seems like it has already been well worth their while.

George_Calfas · Jun 29, 2010

frzg said:
George_Calfas said:

schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":c83xkz5i]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":c83xkz5i]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Click to expand...

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:c83xkz5i]

He's on the checklist, just sent it to you.[/quote:c83xkz5i]

Thanks, that is an update.

schmidtfan20 · Jun 29, 2010

Jeff N. said:
schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":12w8871k]

schmidtfan20 said:

[quote="George_Calfas":12w8871k]

masonphillip said:

[quote="George_Calfas":12w8871k]The inner red board kills these. This will be the first year that I will not build the framed auto set.

Click to expand...

I agree, its just ugly.

Click to expand...

I also wish they would have improved the checklist. The non-Baseball names are fine. The Baseball names are the same from year to year for the past few, they need to get back Albert, A-Rod, etc.

Click to expand...

Actually Pujols is on the auto checklist, the first time since I can't remember and the first time in a budget product
in years.

Is this a change, my checklist does not show him. If so one name is nice but a far cry from 2006.[/quote:12w8871k]

You will never see a checklist like 2006...why would topps even do that when they have proven they can sell the
product with lesser names on it, topps basically sold the product by inserting a mini card of Strasburg which in the
end costs topps nothing. I wonder why topps won't tell me how many redemptions are in this product?

KEvin[/quote:12w8871k]

The product was sold before Strasburg.[/quote:12w8871k]

sold, but not sold out. Topps thinks they can sell products by offering rare short printed cards, cards that cost
them nothing. I would rather have an autograph of a HOF'er than a card that is rare (with no serial #ing)

Kevin

cgilmo · Jun 29, 2010

Exactly how much do you call topps there schmidtfan20?

How long till your calls get screened?

I dunno, just seems kinda weird to me.

SeattleSports · Jun 29, 2010

After learning that Strasburg will not have any parallels (A&G back, no #, Black, wood, etc), I reran the #'s and it's going to be a very tough card to pull.

I'm starting to think this is going to be $150+ easy.

He cannot be any of the following, which means you only have around 11 chances at a base mini per box.

Mini SP: 1:13
Mini A&G back: 1:5
Mini A&G back SP: 1:65
Black-bordered mini: 1:10
Black-bordered mini SP: 1:130
Mini no-number: 1:140
Mini Bazooka: 1:280
Mini Wood: 1:3,542

Strasburg minis should fall about,

1 per 2.14 cases

jubei777 · Jun 29, 2010

ick. those are pretty tough odds. i'll try a box at the LCS but won't be going whole hog on this product. save up for topps chrome instead. btw, anyone think the tony hawk box topper will not be a redemption?

SeattleSports · Jun 29, 2010

jubei777 said:
ick. those are pretty tough odds. i'll try a box at the LCS but won't be going whole hog on this product. save up for topps chrome instead. btw, anyone think the tony hawk box topper will not be a redemption?

If hobby and retail have the same amount of Strasburgs, Retail is the way to go.

The odds on pulling the blacks and no number and such are tougher, so much shots at the Strasburg mini. If they didn't load hobby over retail, I think A&G blasters will exceed 2010 Bowman Blasters as they are much better bang for the buck than hobby.

Bob Loblaw · Jun 29, 2010

frzg said:
After learning that Strasburg will not have any parallels (A&G back, no #, Black, wood, etc), I reran the #'s and it's going to be a very tough card to pull.

I'm starting to think this is going to be $150+ easy.

He cannot be any of the following, which means you only have around 11 chances at a base mini per box.

Mini SP: 1:13
Mini A&G back: 1:5
Mini A&G back SP: 1:65
Black-bordered mini: 1:10
Black-bordered mini SP: 1:130
Mini no-number: 1:140
Mini Bazooka: 1:280
Mini Wood: 1:3,542

Strasburg minis should fall about,

1 per 2.14 cases

It's $200 easy. Probably closer to $400.

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