Help! Is this card counterfeit? Ryan Howard Bat Auto 2/4

Bizzle · Jan 3, 2009

Hello FCB,

I was wondering if you guys could help me verify if this card is authentic. I spoke with a gentleman today that brought this card to my attention and I told him I would post scans on FCB since I knew this community was very knowledgable in the hobby.

He had purchased this card through a private seller and when posting it on ebay, noticed the same card with the same hand numbered serial number. I personally couldn't tell which one was counterfeit so I decided to ask the wonderful people of FCB.

Here are some scans of the card that he was in possesion of.

Here is the card that was online.

can you tell me which card is the real one?

Thanks!

flightposite · Jan 3, 2009

Considering the auto on the one of top looks absolutely terrible, I would have to say that there is a good chance it's a fake.

walter55 · Jan 3, 2009

The top one looks totally fake to me. Did he buy it from a guy in Mooresville?

boomo · Jan 3, 2009

right down to peeling a cert sticker off another card, yukkk

Pete14Rose · Jan 3, 2009

Fake as the day is long.

Bob Loblaw · Jan 3, 2009

The 2003 Bowman's Best BAT cards were not autographed. They were not serial #ed either. The only possible way that card could be legit is if it was part of the Topps Originals set from 2 years ago.

Pretty darn good chance it's fake, or it was autographed legitimately and someone wrote 2/4 on both of them.

miguelcabrera · Jan 3, 2009

haha look at the "R" in the top one
def fake.

ryanhoward06 · Jan 3, 2009

The autograph isn't even close. At least I have never seen him sign like that.

mgar26 · Jan 3, 2009

i could be wrong about this, but i dont recall ever seeing ryan howard sign ryan on top and howard underneath. he signs first and last name side by side. not to mention it just plain does not look like his sig.

azbaseballfan · Jan 3, 2009

Fake as plastic cake. Sorry man, hopefully your friend can work things out.

Bizzle · Jan 4, 2009

thanks guys!

I have to agree that the autograph looked a bit suspicious.

In terms of the card not being produced, He mentioned to me that he thought the card came out of 2007 bowman sterling. It was a buyback card that were inserted 1 per case.

Appreciate all the input! You guys are great!

xcantgobackx · Jan 4, 2009

Bizzle said:
thanks guys!

I have to agree that the autograph looked a bit suspicious.

In terms of the card not being produced, He mentioned to me that he thought the card came out of 2007 bowman sterling. It was a buyback card that were inserted 1 per case.

Appreciate all the input! You guys are great!

Welcome to FCB! The top one looks really fake. Does not look like Howard's auto AT ALL. The bottom looks like its at least Howard's auto, but I think those buybacks came encased in those Topps Uncirculated holders. Like this:

And I think they were in 06 Bowman Sterling. Ask him where the holder is.

Adamsince1981 · Jan 4, 2009

Please don't bid on the 1/4 one...fake as could be.

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