There used to be some great looking sets

Topnotchsy · Aug 16, 2010

Noticed a card in the eBay wins post that reminded me of some of the great looking sets that came out in the early 00's. The 90's were great for inserts, but the 00's had some awesome looking and innovative game-used (and auto) cards.

Memo to the card, companies, bring back the guys who designed some of these sets.

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200lbhockeyplayer · Aug 16, 2010

I like the top two, but the bottom doesn't work for me.

The problem is that the card companies appear to be stuck with a few standard themes and styles now, and a few adjustments later...it's then a new year, new product.

donrusscrusademan · Aug 16, 2010

one day, I will have the 1998 Donruss Crusade set complete... one day I tell ya!

Topnotchsy · Aug 16, 2010

200lbhockeyplayer said:
I like the top two, but the bottom doesn't work for me.

The problem is that the card companies appear to be stuck with a few standard themes and styles now, and a few adjustments later...it's then a new year, new product.

The bottom one is a little more "cartoony" but I still think it is a cool look.

Further, the sets back then actually had interesting themes (at times.) As you know (but I'll point out for those who might not) top one was a ***** League set and the bottom (obviously) a set based on the Rookie of the Years.

When was the last time something that was put put looked like it required thought?

95vr4 · Aug 16, 2010

Still searching the jersey /42...

Topnotchsy · Aug 16, 2010

95vr4 said:
Still searching the jersey /42...

Have never saw that card, but it's sweet.

nevermore · Aug 16, 2010

Companies are trying too hard with the modern GU sets. Too many little windows and cutouts just ruin the card for me. It is okay to have little boxes when using a variety of GU items but having the exact same jersey in each window is lame.

(not mine)

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Sets such as these had just one window and looked far better. Autograph aside, the Koufax is one of the nicest looking GU cards.

(not mine)

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bouwob · Aug 16, 2010

Companies are trying too hard with the modern GU sets. Too many little windows and cutouts just ruin the card for me. It is okay to have little boxes when using a variety of GU items but having the exact same jersey in each window is lame.

The cutout significantly help reduce patch faking. They are good for the hobby.

nevermore · Aug 16, 2010

Smaller cut-outs may be tamper proof but the card still looks cramped and ill designed whether it has a patch or not.

Cards with the nicer patches as the Ultimate, Sterling, or Sweet Spot Jumbos, which are the main targets of forgers can still easily be faked. Companies maybe winning the battle with fakers but they are still losing the war.

KOBEARODLT · Aug 16, 2010

Topnotchsy said:
95vr4 said:

Still searching the jersey /42...

Click to expand...

Have never saw that card, but it's sweet.

the bat cut signature went for like 1100 i think

KOBEARODLT · Aug 16, 2010

this set

Topnotchsy · Aug 16, 2010

bouwob said:
Companies are trying too hard with the modern GU sets. Too many little windows and cutouts just ruin the card for me. It is okay to have little boxes when using a variety of GU items but having the exact same jersey in each window is lame.

The cutout significantly help reduce patch faking. They are good for the hobby.

While this is true in some situations, what a lot of sets have are a few tiny little game-used pieces so that the company does not have to use more material and yet it's a "quad game-used."

boomo · Aug 16, 2010

just picked up a HUGE 2005 donruss and leaf collection, and it was amazing how many different things were in there. Guy had actually completed a master set of 2005 leaf. 20 different proof colors, duals, triples, #ed inserts galore. Ripping was fun with donruss a few years ago.

gracecollector · Aug 16, 2010

I think the most annoying trend in modern sets is smaller player photography, as the companies devote a lot of negative space for the jersey and autographs.

This set looked great to me. Much like the Stitches in Time:

Nowadays, you get a lot of sets like this:

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Small player photo tucked in a corner, with too much space devoted to nothing. I hate this look. The bigger the player photo, the better IMO.

JoshHamilton · Aug 16, 2010

I know I'm going to get absolutely crucified for this, but I don't care.

I think the designs of beloved DLP products from 2001-2005 generally sucked.

There's way too much going on in most of the designs. Even the famous TOTT Ruth jumbo...bland white stock, a bunch of random blue lines, and the colorization of Ruth looks cartoonish at best. Prime Patches...poor design, tiny b/w headshot, a bunch of empty space. Leaf Limited was cool, but the foilboard makes it look cheap. That high end product that came in BGS slabs...Icons maybe? They spelled out all kinds of crap. M-l-b, H-O-F, etc.

I like classic designs that showcase the photo. Gold foil is ok, just don't overdo it by making the entire card foil. That Sterling Rivera card is really nice. Donruss had some great patches, but their designs just scream 'cheap.' just computer generated design after computer generated design. Panini is doing the same damn thing

Topnotchsy · Aug 16, 2010

JoshHamilton said:
I know I'm going to get absolutely crucified for this, but I don't care.

I think the designs of beloved DLP products from 2001-2005 generally sucked.

There's way too much going on in most of the designs. Even the famous TOTT Ruth jumbo...bland white stock, a bunch of random blue lines, and the colorization of Ruth looks cartoonish at best. Prime Patches...poor design, tiny b/w headshot, a bunch of empty space. Leaf Limited was cool, but the foilboard makes it look cheap. That high end product that came in BGS slabs...Icons maybe? They spelled out all kinds of crap. M-l-b, H-O-F, etc.

I like classic designs that showcase the photo. Gold foil is ok, just don't overdo it by making the entire card foil. That Sterling Rivera card is really nice. Donruss had some great patches, but their designs just scream 'cheap.' just computer generated design after computer generated design. Panini is doing the same damn thing

I never cared for the designs of 2005 Playoff Absolute including the jumbo jerseys either.

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