What's the deal with Pedro Alvarez stuff

shayscards79 · Oct 22, 2010

Even though he played about half the season, I still have yet to see any base, auto or relic cards of Pedro Alvarez in anything for 2010, released or on checklists for upcoming products. Which is odd because most of the other rookies that were called up during the season have stuff at least in Topps Update or Chrome.

Anyone else notice this?

gt2590 · Oct 22, 2010

Uh oh. This could get ugly...

cgilmo · Oct 22, 2010

Pedro wants more for autographs than Topps is willing to pay.

jondawg04 · Oct 22, 2010

cgilmo said:
Pedro wants more for autographs than Topps is willing to pay.

His rates aren't crazy, so this falls squarely on Topps for not being willing to pony up slightly more for him. While he wouldn't exactly drive a product like Harper will, he would definitely be a more than welcome addition to Bowman Chrome or Bowman Draft.

marhjan · Oct 22, 2010

Still no Matt Wieters in Topps products also? I can understand if their asking price is high for autos/GU etc, but why not at least base RCs of these guys??? And - what the heck - while I'm at it, can Adam Rosales get a freakin base card???

gogosox40 · Oct 22, 2010

How much do players usually get paid for their autos? I would expect the veteran players to be paid more money anyone have any ideas?

sruchris · Oct 22, 2010

Both Wieters and Alvarez are still under contract with Razor. Once their contact expires (1-year after their debut) you will then see Topps cards of them.

bradical · Oct 22, 2010

sruchris said:
Both Wieters and Alvarez are still under contract with Razor. Once their contact expires (1-year after their debut) you will then see Topps cards of them.

I believe once they are on the 40-man roster their contract with Razor is null.

kentuckyderby · Oct 22, 2010

his best stuff is USA auto

marhjan · Oct 22, 2010

sruchris said:
Both Wieters and Alvarez are still under contract with Razor. Once their contact expires (1-year after their debut) you will then see Topps cards of them.

Matt Wieters MLB debut - May 29, 2009 vs. DET 4 AB, 0 H, 0 HR, 0 RBI, 0 SB

so????

Mighty Bombjack · Oct 22, 2010

gogosox40 said:
How much do players usually get paid for their autos? I would expect the veteran players to be paid more money anyone have any ideas?

Don't know about now, but in 2003 the low minors rookies got a dollar per, and Pujols got 50 per. Players could get anything in between. Agents with multiple clients would sometimes deal to get their younger guys into products, meaning that a veteran could be had a little cheaper if Topps had a recent draftee sign cards. That may be what happened with all the rookies in Topps Chrome.

beefycheddar · Oct 22, 2010

Alvarez and Wieters are not under Razor contract anymore.

morgoth · Oct 22, 2010

From what I have understood with Alavarez is that he wants a better deal than what Topps wants to give him.

The one thing that confuses me is he was in their MiLB set this year does Pedro not have any ability to prevent his likeness from being used in that type of set?

beefycheddar · Oct 22, 2010

morgoth said:
From what I have understood with Alavarez is that he wants a better deal than what Topps wants to give him.

The one thing that confuses me is he was in their MiLB set this year does Pedro not have any ability to prevent his likeness from being used in that type of set?

Topps has a blanket deal for MILB, they have to sign individual contracts for MLB.

JoshHamilton · Oct 22, 2010

bradical said:
sruchris said:

Both Wieters and Alvarez are still under contract with Razor. Once their contact expires (1-year after their debut) you will then see Topps cards of them.

Click to expand...

I believe once they are on the 40-man roster their contract with Razor is null.

Uhh, wrong, because Topps does not have a contract with the MLBPA

cgilmo · Oct 22, 2010

I just don't understand how topps knows enough to put him on box art in pro debut, but then not use him in the majors.

morgoth · Oct 22, 2010

I imagine they are trying to be cheap sad to say. They know they are the only game in town and if he wants a MLB card deal he has to go to them. I also imagine Razor's deal was so good compared to what Topps is offering he might feel offended.

Mighty Bombjack · Oct 22, 2010

morgoth said:
I imagine they are trying to be cheap sad to say. They know they are the only game in town and if he wants a MLB card deal he has to go to them. I also imagine Razor's deal was so good compared to what Topps is offering he might feel offended.

I think you're right; this may be a case of Topps saying that Razor did not set the standard for baseball card compensation, they do.

js0000001 · Oct 22, 2010

mannyramirezcollec · Oct 22, 2010

js0000001 said:

Now only if they'd get rid of that terrible etopps logo

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