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Adamsince1981 · Nov 30, 2010

Rafael Soriano
Jason Bartlett
Orlando Hudson

The Theroit trade was a terrible trade. We still have holes to fill.

MacK · Nov 30, 2010

Lol how was it bad?

A guy who could hit 1st, 2nd, 8th/9th and probably hit about .280 with a .340 OBP.

I know we gave up your boy Hawksworth, but there's no way we sign any of those guys. Can't sign Bartlett anyway, he's still TBs property.

I do like having Theriot though, because Brendan Ryan can come in in the 7th, replace Theriot, and Theriot can shift over to 2B.

elmalo · Nov 30, 2010

Donovan Solano!!!!

Codasco07 · Nov 30, 2010

Skorris CCBC said:
Lol how was it bad?

A guy who could hit 1st, 2nd, 8th/9th and probably hit about .280 with a .340 OBP.

I know we gave up your boy Hawksworth, but there's no way we sign any of those guys. Can't sign Bartlett anyway, he's still TBs property.

I do like having Theriot though, because Brendan Ryan can come in in the 7th, replace Theriot, and Theriot can shift over to 2B.

Brendan Ryan won't be in the organization if Theriot is the starting shortstop as Mo said would be the case. I do not like this. Theriot is marginally better than Ryan's true talent on offense but Ryan is leaps and bounds better defensively.

I still maintain a Mark Reynolds trade would be nice.

George_Calfas · Nov 30, 2010

Theriot is also 31, correct?

elmalo · Nov 30, 2010

Donovan Solano!!!!

aarne13 · Nov 30, 2010

How about Brian Tallett.

sweet. A Blue Jay no more. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DRav87 · Nov 30, 2010

Codasco07 said:
Brendan Ryan won't be in the organization if Theriot is the starting shortstop as Mo said would be the case. I do not like this. Theriot is marginally better than Ryan's true talent on offense but Ryan is leaps and bounds better defensively.

I still maintain a Mark Reynolds trade would be nice.

This may be a stupid question but who is Mo?

Codasco07 · Nov 30, 2010

Reds in 2009 said:
Codasco07 said:

Brendan Ryan won't be in the organization if Theriot is the starting shortstop as Mo said would be the case. I do not like this. Theriot is marginally better than Ryan's true talent on offense but Ryan is leaps and bounds better defensively.

I still maintain a Mark Reynolds trade would be nice.

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This may be a stupid question but who is Mo?

Super Mario · Nov 30, 2010

Mo's Jocketty's successor.

I don't know what to think about this quite yet. Maybe The Riot can have a good season in St. Louis, but I really hope they are planning on doing much more than this.

Mack, you had some good points about the trade on my FaceBook.

markakis8 · Nov 30, 2010

I actually think this was a bad trade for the Cardinals.

As someone stated earlier, the difference between Theriot and Brendan Ryan offensively does not even come close to making up what Brendan Ryan brings to the table defensively.

MacK · Nov 30, 2010

Codasco07 said:
Skorris CCBC said:

Lol how was it bad?

A guy who could hit 1st, 2nd, 8th/9th and probably hit about .280 with a .340 OBP.

I know we gave up your boy Hawksworth, but there's no way we sign any of those guys. Can't sign Bartlett anyway, he's still TBs property.

I do like having Theriot though, because Brendan Ryan can come in in the 7th, replace Theriot, and Theriot can shift over to 2B.

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Brendan Ryan won't be in the organization if Theriot is the starting shortstop as Mo said would be the case. I do not like this. Theriot is marginally better than Ryan's true talent on offense but Ryan is leaps and bounds better defensively.

I still maintain a Mark Reynolds trade would be nice.

That's what Mo said, but Tony just said there's an open competition for shortstop next year.

Brendan has very little value. If they traded him, they wouldn't get fair value.

Codasco07 · Nov 30, 2010

markakis8 said:
I actually think this was a bad trade for the Cardinals.

As someone stated earlier, the difference between Theriot and Brendan Ryan offensively does not even come close to making up what Brendan Ryan brings to the table defensively.

It wasn't a bad trade if Theriot is getting regular PT at 2B and utility IF. Hawksworth is terrible and the Cards have a deep bullpen + nice minor league reliefs arms. The trade is bad because Theriot isn't an upgrade from Brendan Ryan at SS.

Super Mario · Nov 30, 2010

Ryan's defensive play is amazing.

Ryan The Orange · Nov 30, 2010

We gave up a middle reliever out of the seven returning guys we have for a decent hitting middle infielder that we desperately need.

Get Ryno's hitting on track, start Theriot at 2B, trade Skip for a prospect, and the Cards are a playoff caliber team again*.

* The above prediction is based on the big "ifs" that Brendan hits over .220, Colby Rasmus stops striking out, Colby Rasmus gets along with TLR, Jon Jay stays consistent, Jake Westbrook has an ERA under 4.00, Ryan Franklin doesn't blow up, Pujols and Holliday stay healthy, and Kyle Lohse actually pitches like an average or better #5 starter.

World Series or bust! lol

Adamsince1981 · Nov 30, 2010

Ryan Theriot is an extremely minor up-grade from Brendan Ryan and we all know Brendad Ryan sucks. Two teams have moved his worthless ass in
Less than a year, but he'll be our starting SS. Or whatever you call a platoon/middle infielder that is unfortunate enough to play for LaRussa.

This has nothing to do with Hawksworth as was stated earlier. In fact, I love the trade in regards to my Hawksworth stash! Perhaps he'll have a shot to be something in LA unlike being in STL under TLR.

If you are a Cardinals fan with half a brain you realize this trade means that very little will be done to fill the glaring holes that existed in 2010. How did 2010 taste? How will Albert leaving taste?

Current ownership sucks. Mo sucks. TLR sucks. Bud your Rosey Cardinal red glasses seem to work just fine...

MacK · Dec 1, 2010

I guess I just don't see the problem.

Adding Theriot is just adding another piece for Tony to play with. He's a killer against lefties, perfect platoon at 2B & SS. Isn't as good of a fielder as Ryan, but better than Schumaker, and will probably hit about .280 with a .340 OBP. You're not losing anything with this deal.

craiger122003 · Dec 1, 2010

Well this is the big move of the offseason huh ??
Might as well trade Rasmus and let Pujols walk or trade him if thats
the best they can do ::facepalm:: ::facepalm:: :benson: :benson:

MacK · Dec 1, 2010

No one's saying it's the only deal they're going to make..

Strauss said to stay tuned, they're not done.

People complain when they don't make a move. All they did was add another player who fits the organization well.

craiger122003 · Dec 1, 2010

Mack what I mean is the bullpen needs the most help they were atrocious last year
They need 2 or 3 strong relievers One of Theriot/Ryan/Schu wont make the team
I just don't see them making a bigger move sadly I hope I am wrong

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