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Stephen Strasburg...investment, flop, or what?
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sdsportsfan1214
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People are investing on expectations that he will return and live up to the hype. i wouldnt invest at current prices but if he returns strong money could be made
cardboard killer
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Its just like it always is. New cards come out. New cards are all overpriced . Six months or so down the road and they all go down.
blazers091
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FLOP. might as well invest in mark prior cards
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sneekc said:
He had one of the most dominant and impressive debuts in major league baseball history.. he lived up to every hype and expectation prior to the injury. Assuming that it's not career threatening, and the fact that cards are selling for nowhere near the hype, it's not surprising that cards are still selling well if you believe that the injury will only stall his impact. Obviously, no one would be investing for the short term based on the fact that he won't be anywhere near a baseball field until 2012.
nosterbor
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blazers091 said:
nosterbor
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Stephen Strasburg or Kerry Wood take your pick.
bradical
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nosterbor said:
Or even Juan Gonzalez.
For those of you who say he is going to flop, please enlighten us with why?
jbone17
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Clearly an investment. There is no way Stras is a flop yet. If he comes back from TJ and he damages the arm again, then you can say flop.
Hallsgator
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It's tough pitching against those metal bats.bradical said:
BrewerSuperCollector
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sneekc said:
Certainly long term investment. He probably won't be full strength until '13.
uniquebaseballcards
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sneekc said:
In for a penny in for a pound.
Also consider that money wrapped up in him can't be used on other investments.
nosterbor
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because he already is!bradical said:
hail2thevictors
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Here is my 2 cents on the topic:
Strasburg was a terrific investment before being called up(which means his 1st Bowman release stuff and USA stuff). I made a killing off of his 1st Bowman release cards-as did many others. Now, I still believe he is an investment kind of guy, because he is certainly not a flop at this point. For every Mark Prior comparison, there is a Josh Johnson comparison(how did he do this year, huh?).
In my humble opinion, I would stay away. The risk outweighs the reward to me, and by investing in his stuff you are tying up a lot of funds for at least probably a year. I think there is value in his 2010 Bowman Chrome redemption autos, but when you are paying $140 or something for a base auto, if he doesn't have success coming back, you are screwed big time.
Basically, I think there are many better investments out there, with the same type of return on investment-but guys who are much safer plays at this point in the prospecting game. And, having a lot of funds tied up for around a year or more, it just doesn't make all that much sense to me at this point.
Haters are always going to hate. This guy is far from the next Mark Prior, at this point. As I said, Josh Johnson looked awfully friggen good this season-and, oh yeah, he had TJ surgery a couple years back.
Strasburg was a terrific investment before being called up(which means his 1st Bowman release stuff and USA stuff). I made a killing off of his 1st Bowman release cards-as did many others. Now, I still believe he is an investment kind of guy, because he is certainly not a flop at this point. For every Mark Prior comparison, there is a Josh Johnson comparison(how did he do this year, huh?).
In my humble opinion, I would stay away. The risk outweighs the reward to me, and by investing in his stuff you are tying up a lot of funds for at least probably a year. I think there is value in his 2010 Bowman Chrome redemption autos, but when you are paying $140 or something for a base auto, if he doesn't have success coming back, you are screwed big time.
Basically, I think there are many better investments out there, with the same type of return on investment-but guys who are much safer plays at this point in the prospecting game. And, having a lot of funds tied up for around a year or more, it just doesn't make all that much sense to me at this point.
Haters are always going to hate. This guy is far from the next Mark Prior, at this point. As I said, Josh Johnson looked awfully friggen good this season-and, oh yeah, he had TJ surgery a couple years back.
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nosterbor said:
He already is a flop? Kid hasn't even played a full season. He lived up to mass hype and I would even say he went beyond it.
You are delirious.
pigskincardboard
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Here's the problem.
A player is either the greatest of all time and a sure fire hall of famer, or he's not Albert Pujols. For those players that aren't Albert Pujols, their card values peak with the original hype and never reach that point again.
I have no clue if Strasburg will return to form, but I think you should probably compare his cards to Tim Lincecum for a baseline. Strasburg's topps chrome is currently selling for more than you'd expect to pay for a Lincecum Bowman Chrome. You're not leaving yourself much margin for error.
For you to make money, not only does Strasburg have to come back healthy and pitch a great game in one of his first five starts back, but you also have to be able to sell that card during that hype.
If you're thinking about long-term investment, he really has to become not just a perennial all-star but the best in the game.
I don't know why people are investing -- it's tough to predict when the kid will come back, but I can imagine the frustration if Topps doesn't honor the redemptions for over a year as they did with some of last year's projects. I couldn't imagine having a redemption sitting at Topps while Strasburg blows up in his first few starts back.
Are the people investing for 5 year value? or just to resell in the next year and a half?
A player is either the greatest of all time and a sure fire hall of famer, or he's not Albert Pujols. For those players that aren't Albert Pujols, their card values peak with the original hype and never reach that point again.
I have no clue if Strasburg will return to form, but I think you should probably compare his cards to Tim Lincecum for a baseline. Strasburg's topps chrome is currently selling for more than you'd expect to pay for a Lincecum Bowman Chrome. You're not leaving yourself much margin for error.
For you to make money, not only does Strasburg have to come back healthy and pitch a great game in one of his first five starts back, but you also have to be able to sell that card during that hype.
If you're thinking about long-term investment, he really has to become not just a perennial all-star but the best in the game.
I don't know why people are investing -- it's tough to predict when the kid will come back, but I can imagine the frustration if Topps doesn't honor the redemptions for over a year as they did with some of last year's projects. I couldn't imagine having a redemption sitting at Topps while Strasburg blows up in his first few starts back.
Are the people investing for 5 year value? or just to resell in the next year and a half?
I personally do not think Stras is priced well right this moment...
I believe during the 2011 season he will bottom as dreams of 2011 return fade...
I do not think off season 2011 is the right time as hype will start to build around his return.
With patience, this could be an opportunity... currently, it is a limited upside bet with 90-100% downside.
BG
I believe during the 2011 season he will bottom as dreams of 2011 return fade...
I do not think off season 2011 is the right time as hype will start to build around his return.
With patience, this could be an opportunity... currently, it is a limited upside bet with 90-100% downside.
BG
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I'm just maintaining whatever I take in out of breaks or what-not. I agree that the risk is rather high, and prohibative to me at least. But I do have a potential big pay-off card since my Topps MCG auto came back a 9.5
nosterbor
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no ! paying $100's of dollars right now for an autograph card of his is! it is alot cheaper using TOILET PAPER!bradical said:
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