Chisenhall 2008 BCDP AU - Toughest Chrome AU to Grade Ever?

ballerskrip · Feb 20, 2011

I have owned quite a few of these, probably 50 total and own one base autograph gem. They are known for terrible centering, similar to Mike Stanton, but I believe it to be worse.

I never realized how TOUGH they are to grade until I just checked the Population Report. So it peaked my interest. Can you think of any Bowman Chrome or Bowman Chrome Draft Autograph that is tougher to grade?

Base Auto - 9.5 - (33) - 10 - (0)
Ref Auto - 9.5 - (15) - 10 - (0)
Xfractor auto - 9.5 - (0) - 10 - (0)
Blue Ref auto - 9.5 - (2) - 10 - (0)
Gold Ref auto - 9.5 - (0) - 10 - (0)
Orange Ref auto - 9.5 - (0) - 10 - (0)
Red Ref auto - 9.5 - (1) - 10 - (0)

Thoughts?

skrip

tattooelement · Feb 20, 2011

I've owned a few of these. Don't think I had even 1 with 55/45 or better centering. Seems like the 9.5's should have a nice premium due to the scarcity of them.

tattooelement · Feb 20, 2011

Btw, not sure of the pop report, but I haven't seen a well centered Zach Lee Orange Ref AU or a Cowart Blue Ref AU. Those are the only 2 I can think of with the same problem as the Chisenhall's.

Hollywood · Feb 20, 2011

Matt Kemp parallels
Gold 4 9.5's out of 19
Blue 4 9.5 out of 36
Xfractor 3 9.5 out of 40
Refractor 24 9.5 out of 71 a little more normal still tough.
I've owned a tenth the print run of blues over time and only have 1 9.5. Was second high bidder on the psa 10 blue that ended last sunday which was POP 1. Really really don't buy cards already graded, but that one would have been an exception at the price.

brouthercard · Feb 20, 2011

I think the honor goes to the 2005 bowman draft Stephen Drew chrome auto.

I remember back when the product came out, ALL the blues were off-center, and the population report stands at ZERO 9.5's or 10's out of 46 graded.

Even for the base chrome, only FOUR 9.5's have been granted out of 116 graded, with no 10's.

craiger122003 · Feb 20, 2011

Not sure on Beavans numbers but
his auto gets nailed everytime. After a few
thousand autos you would think to use marker 2 or 3?

mwashuc06 · Feb 20, 2011

Wow may have to send mine in, at the minimum it's a 9.0.

Jaypers · Feb 20, 2011

EricInCT · Feb 20, 2011

To answer your question Matt, I totally agree having a stash of my own.

JoshHamilton · Feb 20, 2011

brouthercard said:
I think the honor goes to the 2005 bowman draft Stephen Drew chrome auto.

At least Topps got it right when it really mattered:

bradical · Feb 20, 2011

Maybe I should see if the Louvre is interested in this one:

ballerskrip · Feb 20, 2011

brouthercard said:
I think the honor goes to the 2005 bowman draft Stephen Drew chrome auto.

I remember back when the product came out, ALL the blues were off-center, and the population report stands at ZERO 9.5's or 10's out of 46 graded.

Even for the base chrome, only FOUR 9.5's have been granted out of 116 graded, with no 10's.

Interesing that the Base Chromes were so tough....
7 - refs
20 - golds
27 - xfractors

He is the opposite of Chisenhall who has ZERO gold refs.....

mwashuc06 · Feb 20, 2011

What other chromes are out there that are hard to grade?

sigma_chi · Feb 20, 2011

I've never sent in anything to grade, but I have myself noticed the general crappiness of most of the 2008 Bowman sets. I've had over a dozen chisenhalls and close to that many Mike Montgomery's and both players were completely horrible as far as centering...i've never seen a set before or after that was so pitiful. The refractors and xfractors are even worse as far as centering goes, especially on the Monty's.

ThoseBackPages · Feb 20, 2011

hows the pop report on 9.0s?

ballerskrip · Feb 20, 2011

ThoseBackPages said:
hows the pop report on 9.0s?

28 total for chisenhall, ZERO gold ref 9's

ThoseBackPages · Feb 20, 2011

interesting. i have a refractor of his leftover from when i collected that crap. i should send it in

bradical · Mar 3, 2011

:mrgreen:

EricInCT · Mar 3, 2011

my red auto would have gemmed if someone didn't buy it.

that was a sweet card.

bradical · May 11, 2011

Just sold the Chisenhall on eBay for $193 shipped.

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