Why is that printing plate autos...

shayscards79 · Mar 8, 2011

Out of Bowman Chrome of the same player go for less than red autos /5, orange autos /25 and on par or a little less than gold /50 when they are 1/1s?

I've noticed this lately over the past couple of years. Is it because of the sticker? Or because people don't like the way plates look?

ChasHawk · Mar 8, 2011

1. sticker
2. some people just don't like plates
3. they are really 1/1 out of 4

cgilmo · Mar 8, 2011

#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

JEA2880 · Mar 8, 2011

Yeah, they're ugly as sin. When shelling out as much money as you have to for some of these cards - especially as a collector - I'd much rather pay for the aesthetically pleasing, albeit less scarce, copy.

JoshHamilton · Mar 8, 2011

They're uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

Topnotchsy · Mar 8, 2011

cgilmo said:
#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

Is/was this always the case?

ChasHawk · Mar 8, 2011

Topnotchsy said:
cgilmo said:

#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

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Is/was this always the case?

you know, Judd brought this up last year

how is this not a HUGE deal?

mine damn sure says it was used to make the card

uniquebaseballcards · Mar 8, 2011

Great collectibles but they're not cards, they're used to create cards.

As each released copy is a different color each is unique. Plus its obvious when they're #d 1/1s.

bigpapiMA32 · Mar 8, 2011

I hate all printing plates because I'd have 387 less card on my player collection checklist without them...

JoshHamilton · Mar 8, 2011

chashawk said:
Topnotchsy said:

cgilmo said:

#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

Click to expand...

Is/was this always the case?

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you know, Judd brought this up last year

how is this not a HUGE deal?

mine damn sure says it was used to make the card

Collectors get too complacent

I doubt more than 25% of vintage game used is real, as well.

When companies screw over and lie to collectors for long enough, we settle for less

TBTwinsFan · Mar 8, 2011

JoshHamilton said:
They're uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

Hey now... don't make crazy accusations...

shayscards79 · Mar 8, 2011

TBTwinsFan said:
JoshHamilton said:

They're uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

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Hey now... don't make crazy accusations...

I bet Rosie's head has it's own gravitational pull it's so damn big.

TBTwinsFan · Mar 8, 2011

shayscards79 said:
TBTwinsFan said:

JoshHamilton said:

They're uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

Click to expand...

Hey now... don't make crazy accusations...

Click to expand...

I bet Rosie's head has it's own gravitational pull it's so damn big.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

JoshHamilton · Mar 8, 2011

shayscards79 said:
TBTwinsFan said:

JoshHamilton said:

They're uglier than Rosie O'Donnell

Click to expand...

Hey now... don't make crazy accusations...

Click to expand...

I bet Rosie's head has it's own gravitational pull it's so damn big.

Her ass takes up an entire zip code

shayscards79 · Mar 8, 2011

I'm just waiting for Upper Deck or Leaf to get Rosie to sign cards for a celebrity cut set or something. They'd need to make it a booklet auto to fit her on a card.

Of course there would be an Ellen Degeneres/Rosie Dual auto. Not sure how they would work that out.

ballerskrip · Mar 8, 2011

I am one who has done pretty well with plate autos. You can get in very cheap sometimes and when a player gets hot, they still sell plenty well enough to make some money on them.

skrip

JoshHamilton · Mar 8, 2011

shayscards79 said:
I'm just waiting for Upper Deck or Leaf to get Rosie to sign cards for a celebrity cut set or something. They'd need to make it a booklet auto to fit her on a card.

Of course there would be an Ellen Degeneres/Rosie Dual auto. Not sure how they would work that out.

I heard Ellen likes being on top

RZimm11 · Mar 8, 2011

chashawk said:
Topnotchsy said:

cgilmo said:

#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

Click to expand...

Is/was this always the case?

Click to expand...

you know, Judd brought this up last year

how is this not a HUGE deal?

mine damn sure says it was used to make the card

I remember that thread, he said they started making "extra" plates to be inserted into packs that weren't actually used to print the cards, or something to that effect.

To me this should be a much bigger deal than it is. I had about 2 dozen plates at one time, and this info really upset me. I know they aren't as popular as Game Used/Autos, which is why there is less uproar over them, but as someone who collected them, that p***ed me off even more.

Adam G · Mar 8, 2011

shayscards79 said:
I'm just waiting for Upper Deck or Leaf to get Rosie to sign cards for a celebrity cut set or something. They'd need to make it a booklet auto to fit her on a card.

Of course there would be an Ellen Degeneres/Rosie Dual auto. Not sure how they would work that out.

Yeah, who would be on top and who would be on bottom? (i didn't mean that like you think I meant it........oh wait, yes I did)

matchpenalty · Mar 8, 2011

JoshHamilton said:
chashawk said:

Topnotchsy said:

cgilmo said:

#1 they weren't actually used to print the card

#2 They are actually part of a 4 color series making each card have 4 plates

#3 They are uglier than pretty much everything, and only appeal toa niche collector

Click to expand...

Is/was this always the case?

Click to expand...

you know, Judd brought this up last year

how is this not a HUGE deal?

mine damn sure says it was used to make the card

Click to expand...

Collectors get too complacent

I doubt more than 25% of vintage game used is real, as well.

When companies screw over and lie to collectors for long enough, we settle for less

Way less, my guess would be 3-5% of vintage is game used from player on the card and bigger name more like 1%. Reason why they are so vague and collectors never set a standard for game used cards. They don't have to prove or even show what is cut up and slapped on a card to anyone. Let's see for a vintage legit star jersey that would cost thousands, (even if you can find a 100% legit gamer on a lot of 70's and before stars) I can buy one with a Lou Lampson COA for few hundred bucks. What one is card company buying?

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