Paul Goldschmidt.. any fans?

Diamondback prospect is having a decent ST

8/16 with a monster HR
http://arizona.diamondbacks.mlb.com/tea ... _id=502671

Any fans of this guy? I snagged a Platinum Autograph of his for 8.50 dlvd, which seemed like a decent buy.

No, people look WAYYYYY too much into ST stats.

Firebirds11 said:

No, people look WAYYYYY too much into ST stats.

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He had a decent season last year too... 314 BA with 35 hrs..108 rbis...

I have his Elite auto /50 BGS9.5... I need to sell that when I get home on Friday.

RandomH said:

Firebirds11 said:

No, people look WAYYYYY too much into ST stats.

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He had a decent season last year too... 314 BA with 35 hrs..108 rbis...

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Didn't see that, but I still think people overvaluate players in ST. For example, Cabrera, Magglio, Martinez for Detroit are hitting around/below .200 and some AA, AAA players are hitting .300-.500. Not buying most of it. But hey, Adam Everett is hitting about .300 for Cleveland!

Firebirds11 said:

RandomH said:

Firebirds11 said:

No, people look WAYYYYY too much into ST stats.

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He had a decent season last year too... 314 BA with 35 hrs..108 rbis...

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Didn't see that, but I still think people overvaluate players in ST. For example, Cabrera, Magglio, Martinez for Detroit are hitting around/below .200 and some AA, AAA players are hitting .300-.500. Not buying most of it. But hey, Adam Everett is hitting about .300 for Cleveland!

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ST is a small sample, but you cannot just "throw out" a guy's ST stats.

One thing I would not recommend doing is comparing a prospects stats in ST(like Goldschmidt) to that of a star(Miggy, Magglio, VMart). The reason being, a prospect has to prove himself, and make an impression on the coaching staff of the big league club. A prospect is most likely going to play every game like it is their last, like it is a playoff game-they have to maximize the opportunity they have in big league camp. A guy like Miggy, he is moreso "going through the motions," as he understands the season is a long grind. Veterans don't try and do poorly in ST, but they don't have anything to prove.

With all that said, ST stats have to be taken with a grain of salt. In Goldschmidts case, when you look at the whole picture-it's pretty encouraging. He reminds me of Jerry Sands. BA used reasons why Sands wasn't a great prospect for about a year-and now they are finally showing him some love. We will see how Paul handles Double A this year-that should be very telling.

As a prospector, I understand ST stats can have a big impact on people buying certain guys. Whether people over-evaluate ST stats is not something I care about-I just care that they evaluate them.

I'm a fan

have a lot of cards, though I think hes got massive bust potential.

Let's see him put up comparable numbers in AA Mobile, as opposed to the HR-friendly CAL, and then I'll be a fan.

I've been liking what I see so far in spring training. I have a elite auto /100 on ebay and if I don't like any offers then I wouldn't mind keeping it because I think he could put up some power numbers this season.

cgilmo said:

I'm a fan

have a lot of cards, though I think hes got massive bust potential.

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I didn't want to throw your name out there in case you were still buying.

I have a /50 Elite Auto on Ebay right now. I put a very high BIN, in case I do get a nice offer, or I don't mind hanging onto it.

I'm also waiting to see what he does in AA. Last years stats were possibly sugar coated because of the Cal Lg.

I have been buying a few recently. At less than 10$ for a auto I dont think there is a huge risk. I just bought 3 elites for 7-12$ a shot. He has power potential but as usual with the power comes the K's.
Like someone else said..like to see what he does this year in AA. Since I live about 45minutes from Mobile I will have to go have a "look-see"

Jaypers said:

Let's see him put up comparable numbers in AA Mobile, as opposed to the HR-friendly CAL, and then I'll be a fan.

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Him and Rich Poythress have a lot in common.

shayscards79 said:

Jaypers said:

Let's see him put up comparable numbers in AA Mobile, as opposed to the HR-friendly CAL, and then I'll be a fan.

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Him and Rich Poythress have a lot in common.

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Very good comparison. Very similar numbers, age and body type. Both excelled in HiA and would be nice if they can both produce higher up.

I like him, but 161K's/138 games makes me pass at this time.

Wasn't he on last week's hot list? He could be good for a quick flip, but long term is very iffy.