Looking for 1916 Sporting News Ruth RC

fkw said:

Not a rare card at all, there are plenty of them out there. the Ruth is just as common as every other card in the set(s)

Ruth like almost every other player in set(s) is found with 20+ different backs

There are 2 separate sets
they are known within the hobby as 1916 M101-4 or 1916 M101-5 (2 different sets, numbering is slightly different between the 2 with some different players mixed in, but some players also have the same numbers between the 2 sets so its sometimes impossible to know the exact set they are from.... ie Ruth (always #151)

They are sometimes referred to as "1916 M101-4/5 Felix Mendelsohn"
Felix Mendelsohn was the Chicago Printing Firm that printed the cards up for the individual companies that wanted them.

BACKS... the M101-4/5 cards can be found with ....

Anonymous (blank back)
The Sporting News (only M101-4 numbering known) Thank you for taking your time for all this information!
Altoona Tribune (Altoona, Penn.)
Block & Kuhl Co. (Peoria, Ill.)
Burgess-Nash Clothiers (Omaha, Neb.)
*Everybody's (unknown)
Famous-Barr Clothiers (St. Louis)
Gimbels (New York)
The Globe Clothing (St. Louis)
Green Joyce (unknown)
Herpolsheimer Co. (Grand Rapids, Mich.)
*Holmes to Homes Bread (unknown)
Indianapolis Brewing Co. (Indianapolis)
Mall Theatre (unknown)
Morehouse Baking Co. (Lawrence, Mass.)
*Noon-Day Cafeteria (St. Paul, Minn.)
Standard Biscuit Co. (San Francisco)
*Successful Farming (Des Moines, Iowa)
Ware's (New Rochelle, NY)
H. Weil Baking Co. (New Orleans)
* = extremely rare back
(a couple brands have variations on the back so there really are more than 20 dif backs)

In general, the (oldschool) term Sporting News for this set shouldnt be used since most cards of this design have no connection to the magazine at all. unless you are actually looking for one with a Sporting News back (limiting yourself drastically) ........then the set is 1916 M101-4 Sporting News

The M101-4/5 Ruth will be very pricey though, as expected, but far from the $$ the extremely rare 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth goes for...

Best bet will be buying it from an auction house auction.... (there are quite a few of them offered every year). or like said above... maybe posting a note on Net 54 B/S/T of your want

But if you do, you may want to be more specific in what condition etc you want. they can range from a bit under$10K to well over$250K

Dont buy a raw card, 99%++ are fake!


Also of note (see link below) PSA has graded reprints before as authentic ::facepalm:: , so keep this in mind... graded cards are not 100% safe (SGC would be damn close though)

PSA graded doctored reprint.... http://www.caramel-cards.com/reprint1.html
PSA is a complete joke... I'll leave it at that...

good luck

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sports-vault said:

fkw said:

Not a rare card at all, there are plenty of them out there. the Ruth is just as common as every other card in the set(s)

Ruth like almost every other player in set(s) is found with 20+ different backs

There are 2 separate sets
they are known within the hobby as 1916 M101-4 or 1916 M101-5 (2 different sets, numbering is slightly different between the 2 with some different players mixed in, but some players also have the same numbers between the 2 sets so its sometimes impossible to know the exact set they are from.... ie Ruth (always #151)

They are sometimes referred to as "1916 M101-4/5 Felix Mendelsohn"
Felix Mendelsohn was the Chicago Printing Firm that printed the cards up for the individual companies that wanted them.

BACKS... the M101-4/5 cards can be found with ....

Anonymous (blank back)
The Sporting News (only M101-4 numbering known) Thank you for taking your time for all this information!
Altoona Tribune (Altoona, Penn.)
Block & Kuhl Co. (Peoria, Ill.)
Burgess-Nash Clothiers (Omaha, Neb.)
*Everybody's (unknown)
Famous-Barr Clothiers (St. Louis)
Gimbels (New York)
The Globe Clothing (St. Louis)
Green Joyce (unknown)
Herpolsheimer Co. (Grand Rapids, Mich.)
*Holmes to Homes Bread (unknown)
Indianapolis Brewing Co. (Indianapolis)
Mall Theatre (unknown)
Morehouse Baking Co. (Lawrence, Mass.)
*Noon-Day Cafeteria (St. Paul, Minn.)
Standard Biscuit Co. (San Francisco)
*Successful Farming (Des Moines, Iowa)
Ware's (New Rochelle, NY)
H. Weil Baking Co. (New Orleans)
* = extremely rare back
(a couple brands have variations on the back so there really are more than 20 dif backs)

In general, the (oldschool) term Sporting News for this set shouldnt be used since most cards of this design have no connection to the magazine at all. unless you are actually looking for one with a Sporting News back (limiting yourself drastically) ........then the set is 1916 M101-4 Sporting News

The M101-4/5 Ruth will be very pricey though, as expected, but far from the $$ the extremely rare 1914 Baltimore News Babe Ruth goes for...

Best bet will be buying it from an auction house auction.... (there are quite a few of them offered every year). or like said above... maybe posting a note on Net 54 B/S/T of your want

But if you do, you may want to be more specific in what condition etc you want. they can range from a bit under$10K to well over$250K

Dont buy a raw card, 99%++ are fake!


Also of note (see link below) PSA has graded reprints before as authentic ::facepalm:: , so keep this in mind... graded cards are not 100% safe (SGC would be damn close though)

PSA graded doctored reprint.... http://www.caramel-cards.com/reprint1.html
PSA is a complete joke... I'll leave it at that...

good luck

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