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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
Well, not cleared, but mistrial. So, it may not be over yet.
Well, not cleared, but mistrial. So, it may not be over yet.
jimmyjam1973
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
Not a chance in hell Bar-oid ever makes it.
Not a chance in hell Bar-oid ever makes it.
GiantsSuperCollector
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
There was no doubt anyways he was going to make it, was there? Even look at his career before roids, pretty damn remarkable.
There was no doubt anyways he was going to make it, was there? Even look at his career before roids, pretty damn remarkable.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
As much as I despise the guy, he'd better get in the hall.
As much as I despise the guy, he'd better get in the hall.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
I should get in the Hall before Barry does. I have loved the game for it being a game, he hasn't done that since making the Bigs. I have never done steroids, he hasn't stopped. Or at least he doesn't know if he has or hasn't (apparently he doesn't know what he drinks). Whether or not I hit over 700 homeruns, I am better for the game than he is. I hope they ban him FOR LIFE. This goes for Manny too...in case you were wondering.
I should get in the Hall before Barry does. I have loved the game for it being a game, he hasn't done that since making the Bigs. I have never done steroids, he hasn't stopped. Or at least he doesn't know if he has or hasn't (apparently he doesn't know what he drinks). Whether or not I hit over 700 homeruns, I am better for the game than he is. I hope they ban him FOR LIFE. This goes for Manny too...in case you were wondering.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
LOL, is this post serious? I guess you forgot about his pre-steroid years. Also, you have no where near as much skill as Bonds, maybe 1% of 1% of 1%, if that. And you try to tell us that you are better for baseball than Bonds? You know how many fans started watching baseball because of the legendary home run chase between Sosa, McGwire and Bonds?alexs64 said:
Krom
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
It doesn't matter. Guys like Mac, Bonds, Clemens and even Aroid will be kept out. If you don't believe me look into how well Shoeless Joe performed in the World Series and he is perma banned for "throwing" the series. He has been dead for how long and they still shut him out. It doesn't matter how great they were, how many did them at the time, (that they have been going on since the 60s as someone claims w/o proof) or that my grandmother can't hit a fastball - they will not get in.GiantsSuperCollector said:
scotty21690
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
And saying Bonds is good for the game is silly.....yeah maybe he got fans to come to games, but at the expense of what? A tainted era? What about the post HR chase? Not good for the game in the long run....AT ALL.
I guess I didn't realize Bonds hit 60+ HRs in 1998....GiantsSuperCollector said:
And saying Bonds is good for the game is silly.....yeah maybe he got fans to come to games, but at the expense of what? A tainted era? What about the post HR chase? Not good for the game in the long run....AT ALL.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
1) Not cleared at all legally, a mistrial means he can be tried again.. doubt he will, but when 11 out of 12 jurors voted to convict on at least some of the perjury charges, then I certainly wouldn't crow about it
2) Doubt this will change anyones opinion, one way or the other, on the Hall
3) People who don't want him in the Hall don't think he wasn't a good enough player without the steroids, they argue that steroid usage shows he doesn't have the character to deserve to be in the Hall
4) HR chase was McGwire and Sosa, pure and simple... Bonds' chase was completely separate
1) Not cleared at all legally, a mistrial means he can be tried again.. doubt he will, but when 11 out of 12 jurors voted to convict on at least some of the perjury charges, then I certainly wouldn't crow about it
2) Doubt this will change anyones opinion, one way or the other, on the Hall
3) People who don't want him in the Hall don't think he wasn't a good enough player without the steroids, they argue that steroid usage shows he doesn't have the character to deserve to be in the Hall
4) HR chase was McGwire and Sosa, pure and simple... Bonds' chase was completely separate
Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
I don't know what you're thinking, but voters aren't going to say "He was great from 87-98, so we can forget about 99-07, so we'll put him in anyway." (or where ever you wanna make the cutoff). I personally think he and others should go in, just don't think it will happen, at least for a while.
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I don't know what you're thinking, but voters aren't going to say "He was great from 87-98, so we can forget about 99-07, so we'll put him in anyway." (or where ever you wanna make the cutoff). I personally think he and others should go in, just don't think it will happen, at least for a while.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
It seems obvious that today only reinforces Bonds' lack of character and integrity necessary for the HOF.
It seems obvious that today only reinforces Bonds' lack of character and integrity necessary for the HOF.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
He will get it in. At some point most all steroid era guys will get in. Just like all pitchers from high mound era and dead ball era and all guys before segregation.
He will get it in. At some point most all steroid era guys will get in. Just like all pitchers from high mound era and dead ball era and all guys before segregation.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
I was saying how he was good before then too. Also, you can't just not allow a whole generation from the HOF because they took steroids when there were no rules against them.DWright5 said:
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
Then it will be a boring 10-15 years of Hall of Average inductees.
Would you rather have people bitching about steriod players getting into the hall, or guys bitching that guys like Baines, Blyleven, etc get into the hall?
Never, EVER gonna make everyone happy.
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Then it will be a boring 10-15 years of Hall of Average inductees.
Would you rather have people bitching about steriod players getting into the hall, or guys bitching that guys like Baines, Blyleven, etc get into the hall?
Never, EVER gonna make everyone happy.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
You're right, not for a while. But it will happen.
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You're right, not for a while. But it will happen.
Mighty Bombjack
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
And those average players probably took 'roids to get to average anyway.
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And those average players probably took 'roids to get to average anyway.
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
How are the guys who took steroids different from the guys who cheated in other ways (ala Joe Jackson & Pete Rose)? If you put one in you have to put them all in IMO
How are the guys who took steroids different from the guys who cheated in other ways (ala Joe Jackson & Pete Rose)? If you put one in you have to put them all in IMO
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
That is where you are missing the point, these guys didn't cheat it was not against the rules to use steroids.scotty21690 said:
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Re: So...now that Bonds has been cleared of all steroid charges
Yes, it's perfectly legal to chemically enhance a players body in order to have an unfair advantage against their competition. My bad.
Yes, it's perfectly legal to chemically enhance a players body in order to have an unfair advantage against their competition. My bad.
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