Aroldis Chapman barely reaching the low 90's with his FB

jbhofmann said:

Listening to the Reds-Padres game last night, Marty B. was absolutely livid with the ineffectiveness of Aroldis when he pitches on back to back nights. Last night they said he had lost 12mph on his fastball. What will happen with Aroldis? Does this make the Reds think about moving him to the rotation so he can rest effectively before his next outing?

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Jaypers said:

This is precisely what happens when you mismanage a pitcher's career from the getgo. Why did the Reds invest $30M+ for a reliever? Make him a starter and give him enough rest to regain his full velocity.

Unless it's already too late.

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Jaypers said:

For the record, I own zero cards of him, so my opinions have nothing to do with prospecting. (Shocking, ain't it)

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muskiesfan said:

Jaypers said:

For the record, I own zero cards of him, so my opinions have nothing to do with prospecting. (Shocking, ain't it)

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Feel free to take it that way if you want, but I was not directing my comments at you specifically. This is far from the first Chapman thread and in a lot of them, prospecting comes up with people complaining about not being able to cash in on a reliever. In the overwhelming majority of Chapman threads, profit comes up.

I make plenty of prospecting comments because I get tired of seeing tons of threads about peoples "investments". That's all. That's not saying anything bad about you or prospecting. I don't care for it and it annoys me, but to each their own. Again, my comment was not directed at any particular person.

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muskiesfan said:

Feel free to take it that way if you want, but I was not directing my comments at you specifically.

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Lars said:

Is this rantings of the greatest play-by-play man in the game or is there validity to Chapman's velocity drop with him being used on back-to-back nights?

jbhofmann said:

Listening to the Reds-Padres game last night, Marty B. was absolutely livid with the ineffectiveness of Aroldis when he pitches on back to back nights. Last night they said he had lost 12mph on his fastball. What will happen with Aroldis? Does this make the Reds think about moving him to the rotation so he can rest effectively before his next outing?

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phillyfan0417 said:

Jaypers said:

This is precisely what happens when you mismanage a pitcher's career from the getgo. Why did the Reds invest $30M+ for a reliever? Make him a starter and give him enough rest to regain his full velocity.

Unless it's already too late.

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Elite relievers are worth 30 million dollars. i know it doesnt equate in the prospecting world but if he was to become an elite closer, the reds have made a sound investment.

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muskiesfan said:

I'm a lifelong Reds fan and I watch a ton of games. Chapman does lose some velocity when pitching consecutively.

I know prospectors want him to be a starter to cash in, but I just don't see it. He still has control issues. Plus, I just can't see the guy pitching 5-6 innings or more, every 5 days, throwing 102 MPH+. I've said it since day 1, Chapman would make a great closer. I'm no expert, but with his control issues and mechanics, making him a starter would not be good for his career. Again, I am no expert, but the way he goes about his delivery coupled with trying to throw 100+ MPH almost every pitch does not equate to a starter to me.

I would make him the closer after Cordero is gone.

The Reds already have solid depth at pitcher. Travis Wood and Mike Leake should both be in the rotation for good next season. Wood will probably be there this year, but when Cueto and Bailey come back, Leake is probably going back to Louisville.

As for starters right now, the Reds already have Volquez, Arroyo, Wood, Leake, LeCure, Bailey, and Cueto. When everyone is back healthy, I see the rotation as Volquez, Arroyo, Cueto, Wood, and Bailey. LeCure is pitching well and Leake is a good starter. That's already 2 additional starters without even trying to work Chapman into the mix.

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phillyfan0417 said:

Jaypers said:

This is precisely what happens when you mismanage a pitcher's career from the getgo. Why did the Reds invest $30M+ for a reliever? Make him a starter and give him enough rest to regain his full velocity.

Unless it's already too late.

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Elite relievers are worth 30 million dollars. i know it doesnt equate in the prospecting world but if he was to become an elite closer, the reds have made a sound investment.

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