Ubaldo "Flash in the Pan" Jimenez

bradical · May 13, 2011

Ubaldo Jimenez is 0-3 with a 6.67 ERA one year after posting a 2.88 ERA and leading the NL in winning percentage. The Rockies are 0-6 in the games he has pitched this year. He only gave up 10 HR all of last year, this year he has already given up 4 HRs. Jimenez has been throwing his heater at around 93-94 miles per hour. He topped out at 96 yesterday. Last year he would cruise in the 95-96 range and top out near 100 mph.

What's up with the Flash?

morgoth · May 13, 2011

Did he go over his previous high IP mark last season? Also I watched him pitch against the Pirates and his secondary stuff was never in the strike zone.

1st4040 · May 13, 2011

tough to post career year numbers every year unless your Roy Halladay.. Felix Hernandez hasn't been all that sharp either so far this year. usually its run support with him and his win totals but his ERA is up too.

koal · May 13, 2011

yet another turd on my fantasy team. joining the ranks of crawford, wright, uggla, etc.

matchpenalty · May 13, 2011

A lot of people saw this coming. I don't recall the Ubaldo bandwagon getting too full. Great last year, but he came up small late in big games.

chompsmcgee · May 13, 2011

He's striking out at a career high clip, but he's also walking batters at almost twice the rate he was last year.

Low strand rate and lower FIP than ERA suggests he'll begin to come back towards his career averages. Plus, it's May and he's had 6 starts. Time to relax. He may never post 2010 numbers but he's still an above average pitcher.

HPC · May 13, 2011

I wouldnt say flash in the pan.

He showed he has the stuff last year. Some pitchers, like Felix, are struggling this season.

I'd wait until next season to see if he was a fluke

bradical · May 13, 2011

Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

elmalo · May 13, 2011

I havent seen him throw lately but from what I have been reading he is apparantly having mechanical problems. To call someone a flash in the pan after a month is kind of premature.

chompsmcgee · May 13, 2011

bradical said:
Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

So when an above average player has a career year, then doesn't immediately follow that up with another great year, he is a "flash-in-the-pan"? By these standards the MLB is full of them.

I think it's more likely teammate Carlos Gonzalez is the flash and Ubaldo will revert back to being the quality pitcher he is.

bradical · May 13, 2011

chompsmcgee said:
bradical said:

Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

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So when an above average player has a career year, then doesn't immediately follow that up with another great year, he is a "flash-in-the-pan"? By these standards the MLB is full of them.

I think it's more likely teammate Carlos Gonzalez is the flash and Ubaldo will revert back to being the quality pitcher he is.

The MLB is certainly full of them.

My reason for the thread is that Ubaldo is their ace, #1 starter, top of their rotation and the Rockies haven't won single game he has appeared in.

He is pitching like he is hurt.

Maybe its more of a set-standard of complacency in the MLB. Cash in on your career year, then never perform up those stats again.

See: Adrian Beltre, Barry Zito, Carl Pavano, Richie Sexson, Sidney Ponson

chompsmcgee · May 13, 2011

bradical said:
chompsmcgee said:

bradical said:

Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

Click to expand...

So when an above average player has a career year, then doesn't immediately follow that up with another great year, he is a "flash-in-the-pan"? By these standards the MLB is full of them.

I think it's more likely teammate Carlos Gonzalez is the flash and Ubaldo will revert back to being the quality pitcher he is.

Click to expand...

The MLB is certainly full of them.

My reason for the thread is that Ubaldo is their ace, #1 starter, top of their rotation and the Rockies haven't won single game he has appeared in.

He is pitching like he is hurt.

Maybe its more of a set-standard of complacency in the MLB. Cash in on your career year, then never perform up those stats again.

See: Adrian Beltre, Barry Zito, Carl Pavano, Richie Sexson, Sidney Ponson

There is no doubt players try to cash in on their career year. Wouldn't you? In any profession, if your contract is up at the end of a term and you are trying to justify a new contract with higher pay wouldn't you work harder than ever to achieve that? That's the nature of capitalism. Then, once you've secured the contract you go back to performing the way you always had. That's the nature of people.

As for Ubaldo, he could very well be hurt. Or players could be making adjustments to him. Or it's only 20% into the season and he could be back to normal by July.

My point is it's inappropriately early to call the guy a "flash" when history says he's above average.

elmalo · May 13, 2011

chompsmcgee said:
bradical said:

Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

Click to expand...

So when an above average player has a career year, then doesn't immediately follow that up with another great year, he is a "flash-in-the-pan"? By these standards the MLB is full of them.

I think it's more likely teammate Carlos Gonzalez is the flash and Ubaldo will revert back to being the quality pitcher he is.

Couldnt agree more.

elmalo · May 13, 2011

bradical said:
chompsmcgee said:

bradical said:

Pretty much following in the footsteps of Grienke.

Click to expand...

So when an above average player has a career year, then doesn't immediately follow that up with another great year, he is a "flash-in-the-pan"? By these standards the MLB is full of them.

I think it's more likely teammate Carlos Gonzalez is the flash and Ubaldo will revert back to being the quality pitcher he is.

Click to expand...

The MLB is certainly full of them.

My reason for the thread is that Ubaldo is their ace, #1 starter, top of their rotation and the Rockies haven't won single game he has appeared in.

He is pitching like he is hurt.

Maybe its more of a set-standard of complacency in the MLB. Cash in on your career year, then never perform up those stats again.

See: Adrian Beltre, Barry Zito, Carl Pavano, Richie Sexson, Sidney Ponson

And how many guys have remained great after signing big contracts. There are some busts, but most of the time the great players remain great.

kdailey4315 · May 13, 2011

When did Ubaldo have a great year? He was horrible the second half of last season.

scotty21690 · May 13, 2011

kdailey4315 said:
When did Ubaldo have a great year? He was horrible the second half of last season.

Yes because an ERA of 3.80 and a K/9 of over 9 is horrible. ::facepalm::

You do realize that a 3.80 ERA is under the league average?

elmalo · May 13, 2011

So is Tulo a bu as well. He signed a hge contract, he is hitting .257 and if you take away that Mets series his power numbers arent all that good.

Cargo as well. He is hitting .231.

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