CY Young / MVP candidates nearing the All-Star Break

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

Cy Young AL - have to go with Verlander as a lock but in consideration would also be Jered Weaver, Josh Beckett and CC Sabathia

AL MVP - Three way race between Adrian Gonzalez, Jose Bautista and Miguel Cabrera

NL Cy Young - Jair Jurrjens would easily be the front runner after tonight's one hit shutout although Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels and Clayton Kershaw are having phenomenal starts

NL MVP - two way race between Jose Reyes and Matt Kemp.

I have no idea about Rookie of the Year although Freddie Freeman on the NL side should be in the mix.

scotty21690 · Jul 1, 2011

alabamalongsnake said:
Cy Young AL - have to go with Verlander as a lock but in consideration would also be Jered Weaver, Josh Beckett and CC Sabathia

AL MVP - Three way race between Adrian Gonzalez, Jose Bautista and Miguel Cabrera

NL Cy Young - Jair Jurrjens would easily be the front runner after tonight's one hit shutout although Roy Halladay, Cole Hamels and Clayton Kershaw are having phenomenal starts

NL MVP - two way race between Jose Reyes and Matt Kemp.

I have no idea about Rookie of the Year although Freddie Freeman on the NL side should be in the mix.

Three way race, REALLY? Gonzalez leads all MLB in hits, RBI, BA, and TB. It's not even close IMO.

EDIT: I guess he no longer leads in hits, but I think he is still 2nd.

AL Cy - Probably Verlander (though I would love for Weaver to win it)
NL MVP - Kemp
NL Cy - Halladay

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

I agree but Bautista could throw up 50+ home runs which I think puts him in consideration. Maybe just a two way race.

scotty21690 · Jul 1, 2011

alabamalongsnake said:
I agree but Bautista could throw up 50+ home runs which I think puts him in consideration. Maybe just a two way race.

With that train of thought he should have won last year...

He will probably finish top 5 or 3, but if the season ended today absolutely no way you could give it to him over Gonzalez. I may sound bias, so maybe some non-bias fan will have a say in the matter.

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

don't get me wrong - I'd vote for Gonzalez right now. I'd say he's the clear favorite after more thought. But I think Bautista will serious consideration.

TGutta · Jul 1, 2011

No love for Fielder in the NL?

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

Is Prince even the MVP of Milwaukee?

I would think Fielder and Braun take votes from each other.

Y4NK335 · Jul 1, 2011

Bautista has 25 Home Runs, tied with Mark Teixeira for the league lead.

Bautista is slugging .674, second closest is Kemp at .628.

Bautista's OBP is .473, second closest Miguel Cabrera at .453.

Gonzalez is slugging .593, OBP of .407, and 16 Home Runs.

Both are playing phenomenal but it is much closer than some may think.

schmidtfan20 · Jul 1, 2011

one problem for Bautista, he plays in Canada and no one cares...if its even close then the guy from Boston will
get it.

The NL Cy Young will be from the Phillies.

Thanks
Kevin

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

schmidtfan20 said:
one problem for Bautista, he plays in Canada and no one cares...if its even close then the guy from Boston will
get it.

The NL Cy Young will be from the Phillies.

Thanks
Kevin

Not so fast my friend. Jurrjens would be a lock if the season ends today. Phillies split votes. Jurrjens has less than a 2 era sport.

scotty21690 · Jul 1, 2011

Y4NK335 said:
Bautista has 25 Home Runs, tied with Mark Teixeira for the league lead.

Bautista is slugging .674, second closest is Kemp at .628.

Bautista's OBP is .473, second closest Miguel Cabrera at .453.

Gonzalez is slugging .593, OBP of .407, and 16 Home Runs.

Both are playing phenomenal but it is much closer than some may think.

Gonzalez RISP: .380/.448/.530 52 RBI (116 PA)
Gonzalez 2 outs RISP: .400/.481/.556 (52 PA)

Bautista RISP: .226/.510/.468 27 RBI (98 PA)
Bautista 2 outs RISP: .200/.556/.400 (36 PA)

Stats not including tonight..

tpeichel · Jul 1, 2011

alabamalongsnake said:
schmidtfan20 said:

one problem for Bautista, he plays in Canada and no one cares...if its even close then the guy from Boston will
get it.

The NL Cy Young will be from the Phillies.

Thanks
Kevin

Click to expand...

Not so fast my friend. Jurrjens would be a lock if the season ends today. Phillies split votes. Jurrjens has less than a 2 era sport.

Strange. Jurrjens only has half as many Ks as Hamels/Lee/Halladay and gives up more baserunners. Something doesn't quite add up with his ERA.

alabamalongsnake · Jul 1, 2011

he's not a strikeout machine. but he's unbelievable against the top of the order.

great changeup pitch.

cgilmo · Jul 1, 2011

tpeichel said:
alabamalongsnake said:

schmidtfan20 said:

one problem for Bautista, he plays in Canada and no one cares...if its even close then the guy from Boston will
get it.

The NL Cy Young will be from the Phillies.

Thanks
Kevin

Click to expand...

Not so fast my friend. Jurrjens would be a lock if the season ends today. Phillies split votes. Jurrjens has less than a 2 era sport.

Click to expand...

Strange. Jurrjens only has half as many Ks as Hamels/Lee/Halladay and gives up more baserunners. Something doesn't quite add up with his ERA.

it's called pitching to contact

Brewer Andy · Jul 2, 2011

alabamalongsnake said:
Is Prince even the MVP of Milwaukee?

I would think Fielder and Braun take votes from each other.

They might but I would say the edge goes to Fielder. All I know is the Mets and the Dodgers are both 10 games back and that usually doesn't translate well toward MVP votes

SamHell · Jul 2, 2011

Halladay's FIP-2.19 BABIP - .311
Jurrjens FIP - 3.26 BABIP - .279

Both have been good but one is due for a correction and it ain't Halladay.

braden · Jul 2, 2011

Either Gonzalez or Bautista would be a fine and deserving pick. To say it isn't close is insane bias. Three weeks ago Bautista was having one of the best seasons EVER. It's most definitely close.

Bautista currently leads MLB in WAR with 5.5. Gonzalez is 4th at 4.5.

thefasterblade · Jul 2, 2011

Too many Braves homers on here for them not to say Jair is going to win it.

No such thing as half-season MVP and Cy Young awards, so there is no point in arguing over who they are right now.

I think in the end it will be Cliff Lee and Justin Verlander. Jose Reyes and Mark Teixiera.

cgilmo · Jul 2, 2011

For the record, I don't think there is any way Jair repeats his first half performance after the asb.

Everything is falling his way right now.

alabamalongsnake · Jul 2, 2011

thefasterblade said:
Too many Braves homers on here for them not to say Jair is going to win it.

No such thing as half-season MVP and Cy Young awards, so there is no point in arguing over who they are right now.

I think in the end it will be Cliff Lee and Justin Verlander. Jose Reyes and Mark Teixiera.

someone from phillies and verlander agreed. Reyes or Kemp - Fielder if the Brew Crew stays in contention and he stays hot.. Teixiera is having a good year but no chance he wins it. My guess is Adrian Gonzalez wins it going away or Bautista throws up some ridiculous HR number and pulls it off.

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