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colts1888 said:until Rose and shoeless are allowed into the hall i dont see bonds or any other steroid user ever getting voted in
How do you know what Rose did or didnt bet on?wolfmanalfredo said:colts1888 said:until Rose and shoeless are allowed into the hall i dont see bonds or any other steroid user ever getting voted in
Rose and Jacksons situation were different. I strongly believe its a disgrace that Rose isn't in yet, but I do agree with the ban on Jackson. Whether he participated or not, he knew what his teammates were doing. Rose never bet against his team, or threw games, always on his team to win. He had, and probably still has gambling problems.
Bonds will be in eventually
elmalo said:How do you know what Rose did or didnt bet on?wolfmanalfredo said:colts1888 said:until Rose and shoeless are allowed into the hall i dont see bonds or any other steroid user ever getting voted in
Rose and Jacksons situation were different. I strongly believe its a disgrace that Rose isn't in yet, but I do agree with the ban on Jackson. Whether he participated or not, he knew what his teammates were doing. Rose never bet against his team, or threw games, always on his team to win. He had, and probably still has gambling problems.
Bonds will be in eventually
Sincerelyelmalo said:Bonds will eventually get in.
Pine Tar said:Sincerelyelmalo said:Bonds will eventually get in.
Mark McGwire
cvn66 said:Games pitched for pitchers - I don't see Jesse Orosco getting into the HOF anytime soon.
wolfmanalfredo said:elmalo said:How do you know what Rose did or didnt bet on?wolfmanalfredo said:colts1888 said:until Rose and shoeless are allowed into the hall i dont see bonds or any other steroid user ever getting voted in
Rose and Jacksons situation were different. I strongly believe its a disgrace that Rose isn't in yet, but I do agree with the ban on Jackson. Whether he participated or not, he knew what his teammates were doing. Rose never bet against his team, or threw games, always on his team to win. He had, and probably still has gambling problems.
Bonds will be in eventually
Well I guess its based on his word. I do realize now that that is kinda of stupid to assume he's telling the truth when he went all those years denying he had to do with any betting on the game
sheetskout said:wolfmanalfredo said:elmalo said:How do you know what Rose did or didnt bet on?wolfmanalfredo said:colts1888 said:until Rose and shoeless are allowed into the hall i dont see bonds or any other steroid user ever getting voted in
Rose and Jacksons situation were different. I strongly believe its a disgrace that Rose isn't in yet, but I do agree with the ban on Jackson. Whether he participated or not, he knew what his teammates were doing. Rose never bet against his team, or threw games, always on his team to win. He had, and probably still has gambling problems.
Bonds will be in eventually
Well I guess its based on his word. I do realize now that that is kinda of stupid to assume he's telling the truth when he went all those years denying he had to do with any betting on the game
Will you morons quit derailing the guy's thread and go discuss this virtually-unsolvable argument in another thread....please....
Seriously though....
Yankees1218 said:Bond will get in, and if he doesn't, the Hall of Fame should never be taken seriously, because Bonds is a top 5 player all time, if not the greatest player of all time.
uniquebaseballcards said:Pine Tar said:Sincerelyelmalo said:Bonds will eventually get in.
Mark McGwire
+ character doesn't matter.
Regards,
Rafael Palmeiro
Could eithr one of them have been as good without greenies? Could Mantle have functioned with the lifestyle he lead without greenies?schmidtfan20 said:Yankees1218 said:Bond will get in, and if he doesn't, the Hall of Fame should never be taken seriously, because Bonds is a top 5 player all time, if not the greatest player of all time.
what if Ted Williams or Mickey Mantle got to use roids-how great they would of been? Can you imagine
Ted Williams on roids? 1000 HR's probably would of batted .450 over a season.
Bonds is a cheater and should never be compared to players who played the game and didn't cheat. If you want
to make a special cheaters HOF then that is fine......put it around the back in a small portolet and hang their
plaques there!
Bonds and all the roids in the world still couldn't hold up Ted Williams' jock.
Thats all
Kevin