UD Goodwin Retail Autograph odds.....

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

1:24 you say..nope...1:48..nope...1:72...nope...1 in 200...300...400 packs...nope..

1:480 packs!

That is 1200.00 in retail packs to pull one autograph. I wonder if you would have a shot at the live Lebron
autograph which is on the front of the box?

same ole UD.

Kevin

George_Calfas · Jul 6, 2011

UD should decrease the odds and insert tons of crap autos.

Sincerely,
Topps

TBTwinsFan · Jul 6, 2011

That's kinda cool. Nice to actually have a chase instead of pulling cards every other pack that were inked.

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

George_Calfas said:
UD should decrease the odds and insert tons of crap autos.

Sincerely,
Topps

why when you can insert crap autos AND put them 1 in 480 packs?

Kevin

predatorkj · Jul 6, 2011

TBTwinsFan said:
That's kinda cool. Nice to actually have a chase instead of pulling cards every other pack that were inked.

And you were doing this with what other retail product exactly?

JoshHamilton · Jul 6, 2011

Then don't buy it and complain about something else

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

I am still amazed that many collectors who open wax, don't realize when a company is pulling the wool over their
eyes. 20 dollars for 8 packs in retail usually gets you a 1 in 3 shot at some type of ink.....UD moved those odds
to 1 in 60. Chase cards are nice, but if that is all you are going to put out there, then the price point has to be
much lower. Why is going to touch this garbage?

Kevin

JoshHamilton · Jul 6, 2011

schmidtfan20 said:
I am still amazed that many collectors who open wax, don't realize when a company is pulling the wool over their
eyes. 20 dollars for 8 packs in retail usually gets you a 1 in 3 shot at some type of ink.....UD moved those odds
to 1 in 60. Chase cards are nice, but if that is all you are going to put out there, then the price point has to be
much lower. Why is going to touch this garbage?

Kevin

I wonder the same thing about the retards who bust Heritage

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

JoshHamilton said:
schmidtfan20 said:

I am still amazed that many collectors who open wax, don't realize when a company is pulling the wool over their
eyes. 20 dollars for 8 packs in retail usually gets you a 1 in 3 shot at some type of ink.....UD moved those odds
to 1 in 60. Chase cards are nice, but if that is all you are going to put out there, then the price point has to be
much lower. Why is going to touch this garbage?

Kevin

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I wonder the same thing about the retards who bust Heritage

what and pull a Koufax autograph or a Frank Robinson jersey autograph numbered to 25? Do you even collect
cards?

predatorkj · Jul 6, 2011

I'll probably bust a hobby box just for a chance to pull something nice but normally, I would buy retail. You get more cards for your money that way. As a set builder...why would I do anything else?

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

I know there are people who can only buy retail and people who have never heard of the internet, but cmon, even if
you were a set builder you know you could get better trade from an autograph than the crap you pull in retail. I also
don't like the Lebron autograph on the front of the box that doesn't even exist yet.

Kevin

jimmyjam1973 · Jul 6, 2011

schmidtfan20 said:
1:24 you say..nope...1:48..nope...1:72...nope...1 in 200...300...400 packs...nope..

1:480 packs!

That is 1200.00 in retail packs to pull one autograph. I wonder if you would have a shot at the live Lebron
autograph which is on the front of the box?

same ole UD.

Kevin

do you EVER have anything positive to bring to this site? Every post is either negative, or a troll post. Why not just go away. Man I wish FCB had an IGNORE button. Go away troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TBTwinsFan · Jul 6, 2011

jimmyjam1973 said:
schmidtfan20 said:

1:24 you say..nope...1:48..nope...1:72...nope...1 in 200...300...400 packs...nope..

1:480 packs!

That is 1200.00 in retail packs to pull one autograph. I wonder if you would have a shot at the live Lebron
autograph which is on the front of the box?

same ole UD.

Kevin

Click to expand...

do you EVER have anything positive to bring to this site? Every post is either negative, or a troll post. Why not just go away. Man I wish FCB had an IGNORE button. Go away troll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Foe him.

blanning71 · Jul 6, 2011

Its freakin RETAIL Kevin!! What the hell do you expect? Geez, all you do is complain!!! Be happy they are even putting autographed cards IN the retail release! If you don't like wax, BUY SINGLES. That simple.

Pinbreaker · Jul 6, 2011

Kevin, maybe I should buy Gypsy Queen where I am quaranteed two auto's out of a box..

Oops.. Topps screwed the pooch on that one..

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

blanning71 said:
Its freakin RETAIL Kevin!! What the hell do you expect? Geez, all you do is complain!!! Be happy they are even putting autographed cards IN the retail release! If you don't like wax, BUY SINGLES. That simple.

WOW, I can't believe no one finds this odd. Is the money I pay for retail product worth less than the money
I pay for hobby boxes with? Do the math (for those who can), 1200 dollars is what you have to spend in order
to get one autograph, maybe you will be lucky and pull it in the 22nd box, but still. That is a freaking joke.

...and this is info that everyone on here should be aware of, sometimes guys don't check the side of the box.

just trying to save some fellow collectors some heartbreak.

Kevin

Ty Hope · Jul 6, 2011

Why buy retail? I never touch the stuff.

blanning71 · Jul 6, 2011

RETAIL RETAIL RETAIL!

You WILL NOT get the same hits from retail as hobby! Its always been that way! I can't believe you're arguing this point.

Everyone in their right mind knows that getting hits in retail is SIGNIFICANTLY harder than it is in hobby. Thats a given. I applaud your effort, but give you a thumbs down for set up and presentation.

Bxmostwantedsp · Jul 6, 2011

I will b fishing!!

schmidtfan20 · Jul 6, 2011

Ty Hope said:
Why buy retail? I never touch the stuff.

yeah and I know most here are smart enough to see this, but I have to laugh when companies do this. Press Pass
football is like 10 autographs per hobby box now, yet the retail odds for one autograph is 1:72 packs!!! I guess
card companies just put retail out there and whatever they make on it they make and even 75% of the it got
stolen, they would still make money.

It costs UD probably 50 bucks to print up the crap they put in 480 packs, yet they will make 1200 bucks on it
and only have to put in one autograph....LOL

Kevin

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