what would you grade this auto?

wasabicracker · Jul 15, 2011

So I submitted cards to bgs for grading. On the return sheet it says "auto 10" but on the card it says a 8. I contacted them and they told me " the 10 was a misprint. sorry" I compare autos on ebay and mine compared to others are a joke!! Screw them. :x

StrasburgMania · Jul 15, 2011

I would grade this a 9-10 on any other card but for Harpers 2011 Bowman autos definitely a 10

nyc3 · Jul 15, 2011

Can we get an up close of the autograph, maybe Bryce retraced it in a part of the auto

SydBarrett · Jul 15, 2011

the only question I would have about it, is the bottom of the "B", otherwise I think it's a fantastic autograph and definitely not eight.

bowmanchromeandorr · Jul 15, 2011

looks like at least a 9.5

outofluckandmoney · Jul 15, 2011

sure looks like the 8 auto was the mistake. you got screwed. that's a 10 auto

triplehattrick21 · Jul 15, 2011

All i can say is OUCH.. Crack and resubmit that thing

OhioBobcat3 · Jul 15, 2011

wasabicracker said:
So I submitted cards to bgs for grading. On the return sheet it says "auto 10" but on the card it says a 8. I contacted them and they told me " the 10 was a misprint. sorry" I compare autos on ebay and mine compared to others are a joke!! Screw them. :x

I would get in touch with someone at BGS that can be reasoned with, explain the situation, and then e-mail them a scan of the card / close-up scan of the auto. There is no way that auto is an 8. Absolutely not.

TomMurry · Jul 15, 2011

PM me if you need a good contact to deal with over there.
Thats definitely a 9 at worst.

TBTwinsFan · Jul 15, 2011

I have seen worse looking autos graded 10.

You got screwed.

matchpenalty · Jul 15, 2011

Should be a 10. Seen much worse that are 10's. BGS auto grading is a joke.

JoshHamilton · Jul 15, 2011

They switched the flip with a card that had an 8 auto.

PSA does this crap all the time

All The Hype · Jul 15, 2011

Auto grades are the biggest joke on earth. It's a complete scam. How can someone judge the way someone signs their name? The ONLY time there should ever be lower than a ten grade is if the marker is streaky or the ink smudged.

WJCIII · Jul 15, 2011

ALL_THE_HYPE said:
Auto grades are the biggest joke on earth. It's a complete scam. How can someone judge the way someone signs their name? The ONLY time there should ever be lower than a ten grade is if the marker is streaky or the ink smudged.

Clearly you have no idea how they grade autos. It has nothing to do with handwriting. They look for imperfections with the ink, not the penmanship.

Email Joe at [email protected] and he'll take care of it.

All The Hype · Jul 15, 2011

WJCIII said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:

Auto grades are the biggest joke on earth. It's a complete scam. How can someone judge the way someone signs their name? The ONLY time there should ever be lower than a ten grade is if the marker is streaky or the ink smudged.

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Clearly you have no idea how they grade autos. It has nothing to do with handwriting. They look for imperfections with the ink, not the penmanship.

Email Joe at [email protected] and he'll take care of it.

As stated in my post. I'm referring more to the fact that they'll downgrade an auto sometimes if it goes outside the given space. For example, consider Logan Morrison chrome autos. Because his auto is loopy and wild, 10 auto grades are somewhat tough, even though his autograph doesn't go off the card and the ink is smooth and bold.

JoshHamilton · Jul 15, 2011

WJCIII said:
ALL_THE_HYPE said:

Auto grades are the biggest joke on earth. It's a complete scam. How can someone judge the way someone signs their name? The ONLY time there should ever be lower than a ten grade is if the marker is streaky or the ink smudged.

Click to expand...

Clearly you have no idea how they grade autos. It has nothing to do with handwriting. They look for imperfections with the ink, not penmanship.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID

WJCIII · Jul 15, 2011

JoshHamilton said:
WJCIII said:

ALL_THE_HYPE said:

Auto grades are the biggest joke on earth. It's a complete scam. How can someone judge the way someone signs their name? The ONLY time there should ever be lower than a ten grade is if the marker is streaky or the ink smudged.

Click to expand...

Clearly you have no idea how they grade autos. It has nothing to do with handwriting. They look for imperfections with the ink, not penmanship.

Click to expand...

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID

Incorrect. He said they shouldn't count off for how someone writes their name, which they don't, and that they should only count off for streaks or smudges, which they do.

Hype: They don't count off if the autograph leaves the area, only if it completely leaves the card or the sticker. Morrison's autos are usually 9's because of the streaks not because it leaves the auto area.

JoshHamilton · Jul 15, 2011

I know ATH well enough to surmise he meant where they sign on the card in regards to centering/auto placement, not the quality of their handwriting

pootshwan · Jul 16, 2011

Wow, and that's one of the better Harper Bowman auto's. I've seen a bunch that are streaky

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