2011 Topps Lineage Set Confusion! Need Help

MansGame · Aug 17, 2011

2011 Topps Lineage is confusing me, mostly around Albert Belle's issued cards but all base cards I'm sure have the same parallels, etc.

1) What is the different between the refractor, diamond anniversary refractor and platinum diamond anniversary refractors? I know the canary is a 1/1 and a #/10 for the mini relic.

2) Beckett has listed two mini relic cards #ABE and #99. Looks like all relics have one numbered with letters and a second one #99. Does anyone understand this? I only have Albert Belle with one base mini relic card, which is a bat. Maybe this means there is a bat and jersey version? Just thought I'd see one on eBay by now.

I've looked all over online for an updated checklist and can't find one. I've also looked through eBay for all listings from this set and can't seem to locate any sort of answers to these issues. Thanks a lot for any insight, hints, pictures, etc!

smapdi · Aug 17, 2011

1) Looks like there are 3 parallels for the base set. The Canary Diamond 1/1 is easy. The version with all the diamond sparkles is what's referred to as the Diamond Anniversary, like what was in the base Topps set series 1 & 2. The Platinum Diamond is the one that looks more like a traditional refractor, a flat but silvery (platinumy) reflective surface. There are no 'Refractor' parallels, but with 2 fairly similar parallels people call them what they will.

2) There is a '75 Mini Relic, with a Canary #/10 parallel, and a 60th Anniversary Jumbo relic for some players. The Jumbos have jersey swatches #/25, and the patches are #/5 (with some sick ones unearthed so far). I don't know if Belle is one with a Jumbo, I don't think I've seen one, but he is in the '75 Mini set, which are 'numbered' like 75R-***, with Belle being 75R-ABE. All the 75 Mini Relics are parallels to the 200-card plain cardboard '75 Mini set. I'd guess Belle is #99 in that set according to the checklist Beckett has, but at least one ebayer says it's #140, so things might have changed. There are lots of variations in the Mini Relics as far as different materials (bats vs different colored jerseys), but all the Belles I've seen so far have been bats.

MansGame · Aug 17, 2011

Thanks a lot for the post! Below are the cards exactly from beckett.com. There are 5 from the #140, 4 with the mini's and then 4 printing plates for a total of 13 cards. This has to be an error on their part because it doesn't seem like there is just a refractor but the diamond anniversary refractors only? Belle also HAS to only have one mini relic, so not sure why the two version which are #ABE and #99...

2011 Topps Lineage #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Canary Diamond Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Diamond Anniversary Platinum Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Diamond Anniversary Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics #ABE Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics #99 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics Gold Canary Diamond Refractors #ABE Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Black #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Cyan #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Magenta #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Yellow #140 Albert Belle

cmnkb8 · Aug 17, 2011

http://magazine-exchange.com/product_do ... lSheet.pdf

Actually, according to the sell sheet, the "Platinum Diamond" is the sparkly silver parallel, and I assume the Diamond Anniversary is the regular refractor-like cards (not pictured on sell sheet).

MansGame · Sep 6, 2011

mansgame said:
Thanks a lot for the post! Below are the cards exactly from beckett.com. There are 5 from the #140, 4 with the mini's and then 4 printing plates for a total of 13 cards. This has to be an error on their part because it doesn't seem like there is just a refractor but the diamond anniversary refractors only? Belle also HAS to only have one mini relic, so not sure why the two version which are #ABE and #99...

2011 Topps Lineage #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Canary Diamond Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Diamond Anniversary Platinum Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Diamond Anniversary Refractors #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics #ABE Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics #99 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage 1975 Mini Relics Gold Canary Diamond Refractors #ABE Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Black #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Cyan #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Magenta #140 Albert Belle
2011 Topps Lineage Printing Plates Yellow #140 Albert Belle

Thought I'd update the few who cared for the post. Beckett has removed the bolded two cards from above... hints my question/post, I was correct in assuming they were not part of the set or his checklist.

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