Jameson Taillon's season

asw37 · Aug 31, 2011

He's has had some rough outings and ended with a not so pretty era, but was doing so with pretty tight restrictions regarding secondary pitches. He did, however end the season on a very high note. How would you rate his season, and where do you think he will rank in next year's prospect rankings?

ballerskrip · Aug 31, 2011

I think he had a good year, he was votest the best pitching prospect in his league, best fastball, best breaking ball, etc etc. I would imagine he would be a top 25 prospect going into 2012.

Yankees1218 · Aug 31, 2011

I think his season was above my expectations.

-His 4.16 ERA is not a very reliable stat to judge his season.
-He had more than a k per inning, and only 20 BB's in over 80 innings.
-He had a 3.16 ERA with less than 1 walk per 9 innings in the first half.

I say he is in the top 15 overall next year in the prospect rankings.

Hallsgator · Aug 31, 2011

He has 9.54 K/9 using a limited arsenal. Can't wait to see what he does when he can unleash everything. Also has a fairly decent 2.03 BB/9 and another good sign is that his FIP is 3.35, almost a full run lower than his ERA. He has having a pretty good season overall.

Jaypers · Aug 31, 2011

asw37 said:
How would you rate his season, and where do you think he will rank in next year's prospect rankings?

I'd take him over Cole anyday.

Yankees1218 · Aug 31, 2011

Jaypers said:
asw37 said:

How would you rate his season, and where do you think he will rank in next year's prospect rankings?

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I'd take him over Cole anyday.

Agreed.

His price dip has allowed me to easily acquire a lot more Taillon autos for my stash.

All The Hype · Aug 31, 2011

He had a great year given the circumstances, but the casual prospector won't be able to see that through his average/slightly above average statistics. Enormous upside and showed that he can make adjustments. I'll be adding to my stash this offseason if this is where prices stay.

shayscards79 · Aug 31, 2011

I'm confident in him still. Not bad for a pro debut straight out of high school.

I'd say I'd add to my stash now too, but I've already spend about $600 on his stuff. Now I just wait.

sheetskout · Aug 31, 2011

ALL_THE_HYPE said:
He had a great year given the circumstances, but the casual prospector won't be able to see that through his average/slightly above average statistics. Enormous upside and showed that he can make adjustments. I'll be adding to my stash this offseason if this is where prices stay.

I believe a certain Yankee catching prospect falls into this category as well.

JoshHamilton · Sep 1, 2011

Yankees1218 said:
-His 4.16 ERA is not a very reliable stat to judge his season.

Ok. Don't use ERA as a valid stat to judge him by, even though it's a very reliable stat to judge him by. Whatever.

-He had a 3.16 ERA with less than 1 walk per 9 innings in the first half.

Oh, but now that you've found an ERA stat that's a run lower, let's use ERA as a reliable stat

Thanks for the analysis, Joe Morgan

Yankees1218 · Sep 1, 2011

JoshHamilton said:
Yankees1218 said:

-His 4.16 ERA is not a very reliable stat to judge his season.

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Ok. Don't use ERA as a valid stat to judge him by, even though it's a very reliable stat to judge him by. Whatever.

-He had a 3.16 ERA with less than 1 walk per 9 innings in the first half.

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Oh, but now that you've found an ERA stat that's a run lower, let's use ERA as a reliable stat

Thanks for the analysis, Joe Morgan

I understand what you are trying to say, BUT you cant disregard ERA all together, just understand that there are factors in the minors that cause a players high ERA other than the pitchers actual performance. No need to go through threads finding ways to put people down.

asw37 · Sep 1, 2011

the fact that they had him throwing mostly fastballs and working on his command, and restricted him from throwing the curve definitely deems the era unreliable throughout the entire season. He was throwing the curve more frequently in his final game and struck out 9 in 4.

Yankees1218 · Sep 1, 2011

asw37 said:
the fact that they had him throwing mostly fastballs and working on his command, and restricted him from throwing the curve definitely deems the era unreliable throughout the entire season. He was throwing the curve more frequently in his final game and struck out 9 in 4.

Not if he has a low ERA while pitching with restrictions. It makes it that much better.

200lbhockeyplayer · Sep 1, 2011

If there is a "casual prospector" who doesn't already know the name "Jameson Taillon" I'd be shocked, so his 2011 stats are fairly meaningless for the "casual prospector" who often seems to buy on pedigree than current stats.

Then again, most "Top Prospect" rankings are coming in taking pedigree into account as well, including league rankings where the managers are picking.

What will 2012 bring for Taillon? No one knows.

Hallsgator · Sep 1, 2011

200lbhockeyplayer said:
What will 2012 bring for Taillon? No one knows.

Hardcore insight there!

JoshHamilton · Sep 1, 2011

200lbhockeyplayer said:
What will 2012 bring for Taillon? No one knows.

FWIW, you're correct. My Magic 8-Ball gave me "Cannot predict now." I didn't even ask it a question

IT'S THAT GOOD

200lbhockeyplayer · Sep 1, 2011

Hallsgator said:
200lbhockeyplayer said:

What will 2012 bring for Taillon? No one knows.

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Hardcore insight there!

As comical as that is, it says as much about his future as the lunatic analysis by hacks on a baseball card message board talking about his 2011 season.

Jaypers · Sep 1, 2011

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MiracleMatthew · Sep 1, 2011

Taillon sucks, sell everything you've got

Hallsgator · Sep 1, 2011

200lbhockeyplayer said:
Hallsgator said:

200lbhockeyplayer said:

What will 2012 bring for Taillon? No one knows.

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Hardcore insight there!

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As comical as that is, it says as much about his future as the lunatic analysis by hacks on a baseball card message board talking about his 2011 season.

Keep thinking that, but not everyone here is a "hack", or whatever that is.

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