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who's the biggest big name prospect bust last few years?
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1st4040
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LaPorta... so bad he can't even stay in the majors
200lbhockeyplayer
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I find it funny that the three names listed for "biggest name prospect bust" have all spent decent time in the Majors.
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Angel Villalona
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I honestly thought pedro alvarez was the real deal but so far, been struggling...too early n young for the bust label but next year is an important year for him
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Villalona was never highly touted enough for my consideration and Alvarez is still too young to consider a bust. You could make a good argument for any of the following: Alex Gordon, Jeremy Hermida, Cameron Maybin, Delmon, and Brandon Wood
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Keyser Soze said:
gordon has really turned it around, the others are good.
i guess i was thinking an even shorter time frame, last few years.
um, 200lb, i think u understand what im asking, so why the dumb comment?
gordon beckham stays in the majors for reasons only the white sox know,
but he flat out sucks donkey balls and is a 100% bust period.
he was prospected heavy, is a total worthless mess, and has cost people
good coin. thats kind of what i meant.
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Of everyone mentioned so far, there is no debate that it is Brandon Wood.
That isn't to say that he's the biggest name prospect bust over the last few years, but of those mentioned...there is no rational reasoning to list anyone other than Brandon Wood.
As for Delmon Young, what planet are you guys from thinking that he's a "bust"? 162-game average MLB season lines of .290, 15 HR and 90 RBI. Yeah, what a bust!
The same Alex Gordon who is batting .300 with 20 HR this season?
That isn't to say that he's the biggest name prospect bust over the last few years, but of those mentioned...there is no rational reasoning to list anyone other than Brandon Wood.
As for Delmon Young, what planet are you guys from thinking that he's a "bust"? 162-game average MLB season lines of .290, 15 HR and 90 RBI. Yeah, what a bust!
The same Alex Gordon who is batting .300 with 20 HR this season?
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cardboard versus real life baseball, totally different things
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ThoseBackPages said:
Exactly. Simply put they're all busts because they didn't live up to their real or perceived potential in the hobby. Of course everyone here knows exactly what we're talking about because prospecting is entirely based on real or perceived potential.
Perhaps the easiest way to measure the extent a player is a bust is to compare how much his first cards used to sell for (when his real or perceived hobby potential is highest) to how much they sell for today (reality).
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I guess for me, a big name prospect bust is different than a card prospecting bust.boomo said:
And almost every "bust" mentioned had some solid time for people to make a lot of money.
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boomo said:
But let's really look at that. Why were those guys cards so high? I suggest it is because the people buying them were high. I tip my hat to these two gentlemen for raising the prices of all of delmon/gordon card prices by buying up (and paying way too much for) gold refractors, and especially for creating a sudden love/fascination in the hobby for gold refractors. The masses flocked to gold refractors like sheep, it was honestly a little sad to see. I think that the gentlemen would agree that, in hindsight, it wasn't wise to pour so much money into those gold refractors.
In conclusion, I don't think it was hundreds of people thinking that these guys were going to be the next Pujols, based on their projections. It was two guys who convinced the masses that these players were going to be special, and upon seeing how much these guys were willing to invest, the masses were willing to take a little plunge themselves.
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andrew miller
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ok, looked up miller on baseball referebce and saw lastings milledge name above his, i might go with him 
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RL24 said:boomo said:
But let's really look at that. Why were those guys cards so high? I suggest it is because the people buying them were high. I tip my hat to these two gentlemen for raising the prices of all of delmon/gordon card prices by buying up (and paying way too much for) gold refractors, and especially for creating a sudden love/fascination in the hobby for gold refractors. The masses flocked to gold refractors like sheep, it was honestly a little sad to see. I think that the gentlemen would agree that, in hindsight, it wasn't wise to pour so much money into those gold refractors.
In conclusion, I don't think it was hundreds of people thinking that these guys were going to be the next Pujols, based on their projections. It was two guys who convinced the masses that these players were going to be special, and upon seeing how much these guys were willing to invest, the masses were willing to take a little plunge themselves.
I find it fascinating how things like this can be pretty much invisible players in the market. If you'd have asked most people buying cards then (and I'll admit to being sucked into the Delmon hype, and picking up a couple of SPx and some Chrome's albeit no gold refractors) no one would tell you they were willing to pay inflated prices because a couple of people were driving up prices, they would have talked about a growing market, good economy etc. Yet this was probably one of the biggest factors. A more easy to follow "case study" was when a couple of people drove the prices on the 2002 Prospect Premieres Prince Fielder RC Auto up from around $65 to $135 by spending around $4000 between them. (Article was in Beckett way back, though I am not sure that many people really understood the ramifications all that well.)
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Jason Heyward? Dude is total crap right now.
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Jeff Clement was a cant miss future All Star according to Beckett's Rolodex a few years ago. 2006 brought us Jason Place and Billy Rowell as well. Almost forgot, Joba Chamberlain cards were going crazy at one point too!
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