How do you rate the Cubs offseason?

ballerskrip · Jan 31, 2012

I am interested in what "outsiders" or non cubs fans think of their offseason. Obviously the team is "rebuilding", which is what needed to happen. What is your take on what the Cubs have done this off-season?

THe new Regime

Added Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer to run the front office

Free Agent Signings
David Dejesus
Kerry Wood
Andy Sonnanstine
Manny Corpas
Paul Maholm

Trade Additions
Ian Stewart
Chris Volstad
Travis Wood
Anthony Rizzo
Zach Cates
Ronald Torreyes

Trade casualties
Andrew Cashner
Tyler Colvin
Carlos Zambrano

Free Agent Losses
Carlos Silva
Aramis Ramirez
Carlos Pena

My take, we have got younger, cheaper, and rid ourselves of some older players with bad contracts. We have added a couple of young starters in Wood and Volstad, a potential superstar in Anthony Rizzo. I think the potential addition of Mr. Cespedes could really put this off-season over the top for the Cubs.

Thoughts?

muskiesfan · Jan 31, 2012

I didn't put a grade on it, but here's just a little of my take.

The team definitely needed to shed a couple of contracts. If they could shed Soriano's as well, that would be a big help.

As a Reds fan, I was very excited to get Marshall from the Cubs, but I didn't like giving up Travis Wood. I think Wood has the potential to be a solid starter. Not an ace, but a good, dependable middle of the rotation guy.

I think the Cubs are setting themselves up to start being a competitor for the NL Central. I still think they're a couple of seasons away, but I think they are headed in the right direction.

ahill1 · Jan 31, 2012

Im liking what we have done so far. That being said there is a long way to go, but we are set up nicely for the future. We have some young talent and the farm is getting alot better. With the logjam at a couple positions in the minors we also have some tradebait (Junior Lake, Candelario, Vitters) . It'll be interesting to see the next year or 2 what moves Theo makes but so far I like it

Pine Tar · Jan 31, 2012

I have gone with "C", because all multiple choices things in the past have been "C"

James52411 · Jan 31, 2012

They are blowing up the team as needed, and have gotten some usable pieces in return. I give them a B because many of the moves make sense, but they haven't totally ripped anyone off (unless Rizzo ends up being a stud). The Cubs will be crap this year, but at least they will figure out which of their kids can play over the next couple of years and are getting to the point of having some money to spend in free agency around 2014 when they are ready to try to compete.

sebpoo · Jan 31, 2012

I gave a C, i think they have improved but there is still a lot of work to do.

If they grab Cespedes, i'll change it for a B.

I would like to hear from the 2 voters who gave a F...

ChasHawk · Jan 31, 2012

Between the front office moves and dumping bad contracts/clubhouse cancers, I gave them a solid B. Cespedes would move it to a B+

And Matt, including D anf F was pointless, because you knew some assbags were just going to have to hit those... :|

shayscards79 · Jan 31, 2012

As a Cubs fan, I've written this season off. But I gave a solid grade based on what they got rid of, not what they've gained.

ChasHawk · Jan 31, 2012

:lol: :lol:

matchpenalty · Jan 31, 2012

Anyone know how much dead money the Cubs are paying out this season and what current payroll is at? Are they paying 15 million of Z deal

aaron41984 · Jan 31, 2012

Automatic "B" for adding Theo. An "A" would have been grabbing a primo free agent as well. Rizzo could turn out to be a monster though.

George_Calfas · Jan 31, 2012

ChasHawk said:
Between the front office moves and dumping bad contracts/clubhouse cancers, I gave them a solid B. Cespedes would move it to a B+

And Matt, including D anf F was pointless, because you knew some assbags were just going to have to hit those... :|

You are welcome

ballerskrip · Jan 31, 2012

I think it is funnny that people give them an F. Yes, you can hate the Cubs, that is fine. But there is a ZERO % chance that any knowledgeable baseball fan says they failed this offseason.

They added young talent, added the two of the smartest minds in baseball, shed payroll, etc. They are not going to compete right now, they aren't trying to.

miguelcabrera · Jan 31, 2012

cubs are my nl team. always wanted to go to wrigley. had not been following colvin much but how was his season last year? i thought the cubs were high on him at one point. might be mistaken tho

egon8 · Jan 31, 2012

ballerskrip said:
I am interested in what "outsiders" or non cubs fans think of their offseason. Obviously the team is "rebuilding", which is what needed to happen. What is your take on what the Cubs have done this off-season?

THe new Regime

Added Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer to run the front office

Free Agent Signings
David Dejesus
Kerry Wood
Andy Sonnanstine
Manny Corpas
Paul Maholm

Trade Additions
Ian Stewart
Chris Volstad
Travis Wood
Anthony Rizzo
Zach Cates
Ronald Torreyes

Trade casualties
Andrew Cashner
Tyler Colvin
Carlos Zambrano

Free Agent Losses :?:
Carlos Silva
Aramis Ramirez
Carlos Pena

My take, we have got younger, cheaper, and rid ourselves of some older players with bad contracts. We have added a couple of young starters in Wood and Volstad, a potential superstar in Anthony Rizzo. I think the potential addition of Mr. Cespedes could really put this off-season over the top for the Cubs.

Thoughts?

As a Sox fan, I must respect the work that the organization has done to this point.
Dumping Zambrano for a bag of dung would have been an improvement. He and Ozzie deserve each other.
Your free agent losses aren't really losses. Rizzo has a big upside in potential.
It pains me to admit, a solid B.
(Now ask me about the South Side! ::facepalm:: )

scotty21690 · Jan 31, 2012

BrewerSuperCollector · Jan 31, 2012

The only thing I think the Cubs did wrong is signing Dejesus. They're rebuilding and an aging veteran that doesn't do anything exceptional doesn't help. Keep the money.

hoopster3977 · Jan 31, 2012

Not sold on Theo. My grade is a C.

MacK · Feb 1, 2012

BrewerSuperCollector said:
The only thing I think the Cubs did wrong is signing Dejesus. They're rebuilding and an aging veteran that doesn't do anything exceptional doesn't help. Keep the money.

I like the DeJesus signing. He was a 3+ WAR player for six consecutive seasons 2005-2010. Only $5M annually.

Super Mario · Feb 2, 2012

Muskiesfan wrote in one of the MT's.....

Oh, the Cubs thread. Guaranteed Sam Banks gave them an F. :lol:

Just for THAT, I gave them a D, haha.

Getting Theo was huge for them, but they're still a few years out from competing for the division.

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