So tired of ebay sellers and their counter offers

TomMurry · Feb 4, 2012

So I see an item I wanted that was for sale for 149.99. Regular sell price was around 100-105, so I throw in an offer for 100. I get a response of 149.98. So tired of this stupid ****. I've had at LEAST 5 of these in the last 2 weeks and all of my offers were the going rate. Anyone else seeing this happen?

All The Hype · Feb 4, 2012

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I haven't had this happen lately, but that's so incredibly unprofessional that I would probably just move onto the next item.

It's one thing if the card is listed at $149.99 (sells for $100) and someone offers $15 and THEN the seller counter-offers with about $140. But when a reasonable offer is made and the counter offer is one cent lower than the BIN, I take that as a seller who is wasting my time, so I prefer to forget about them and move on.

ljw29 · Feb 4, 2012

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TomMurry said:
So I see an item I wanted that was for sale for 149.99. Regular sell price was around 100-105, so I throw in an offer for 100. I get a response of 149.98. So tired of this stupid shat. I've had at LEAST 5 of these in the last 2 weeks and all of my offers were the going rate. Anyone else seeing this happen?

Its one thing to counter one penny under buy it now but if they countered at 120 thats their price and shouldnt be claimed about, nothing says they have to accept "going rate"

uniquebaseballcards · Feb 4, 2012

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Who is the seller?

TomMurry · Feb 4, 2012

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ljw29 said:
TomMurry said:

So I see an item I wanted that was for sale for 149.99. Regular sell price was around 100-105, so I throw in an offer for 100. I get a response of 149.98. So tired of this stupid shat. I've had at LEAST 5 of these in the last 2 weeks and all of my offers were the going rate. Anyone else seeing this happen?

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Its one thing to counter one penny under buy it now but if they countered at 120 thats their price and shouldnt be claimed about, nothing says they have to accept "going rate"

Thats fine. If they would have countered 110 Id have probably paid it, but to counter with a penny under is such a ********* move.

WoundedDuck · Feb 4, 2012

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Counter with $100.01

ljw29 · Feb 4, 2012

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TomMurry said:
ljw29 said:

TomMurry said:

So I see an item I wanted that was for sale for 149.99. Regular sell price was around 100-105, so I throw in an offer for 100. I get a response of 149.98. So tired of this stupid shat. I've had at LEAST 5 of these in the last 2 weeks and all of my offers were the going rate. Anyone else seeing this happen?

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Its one thing to counter one penny under buy it now but if they countered at 120 thats their price and shouldnt be claimed about, nothing says they have to accept "going rate"

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Thats fine. If they would have countered 110 Id have probably paid it, but to counter with a penny under is such a ********* move.

I agree.

I know when I counter, I will say why if it is higher than Ebay going rate.

Adam G · Feb 4, 2012

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Obviously the seller isn't interested in working out a sell. Don't dwell on it, life's too short.

brian26 · Feb 4, 2012

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The seller is under no obligation to sell it any cheaper than he wants to. The going rate is meaningless. Perhaps he bought it for $150 and now, for whatever reason, needs to sell it and doesn't want to take a loss.

Also, the "going rate" is meaningless because someone new to Ebay or unfamiliar with the search function could buy it for $150 on a whim on their initial search.

The bottom line is that the seller isn't doing anything wrong. He's not obligated to sell it to you for what you want to pay. He only needs to sell it for what he wants to sell it for.

mmier118 · Feb 4, 2012

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I've had that happen a few times too lately, I just move on. The people of ebay never cease to amaze me anymore lol

All The Hype · Feb 4, 2012

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brian26 said:
The seller is under no obligation to sell it any cheaper than he wants to. The going rate is meaningless. Perhaps he bought it for $150 and now, for whatever reason, needs to sell it and doesn't want to take a loss.

Also, the "going rate" is meaningless because someone new to Ebay or unfamiliar with the search function could buy it for $150 on a whim on their initial search.

The bottom line is that the seller isn't doing anything wrong. He's not obligated to sell it to you for what you want to pay. He only needs to sell it for what he wants to sell it for.

I agree with you completely that the seller can hold out for whatever amount he wants, but I think the idea is that if you're going to list something with a Best Offer option, it's pretty ******* to send a counter-offer 1 cent less than your BIN price. Why even have the Best Offer option if this is all the seller is going to do for counter-offers?

TomMurry · Feb 4, 2012

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brian26 said:
The bottom line is that the seller isn't doing anything wrong. He's not obligated to sell it to you for what you want to pay. He only needs to sell it for what he wants to sell it for.

Then please explain why he has a Best Offer option listed?

shayscards79 · Feb 5, 2012

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WoundedDuck said:
Counter with $100.01

This

rico08 · Feb 5, 2012

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Maybe the point was to get you to counter with something higher, not to insult you. Which, obviously, he did and now it's his loss.

Fandruw25 · Feb 5, 2012

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This could all be solved with a blocked sellers list

TomMurry · Feb 5, 2012

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i bid 69.69 and he replied "LOL" and he blocked me.

rico08 · Feb 5, 2012

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TomMurry said:
i bid 69.69 and he replied "LOL" and he blocked me.

Then you run this risk. Sure, you could make a statement and vow to never bid on this seller's stuff or you could lose out on something you really want. It's all cardboard.

Bottom line, don't get so butthurt. The whole waggle your junk on the web thing needs to stop.

D-Lite · Feb 5, 2012

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All The Hype said:
brian26 said:

The seller is under no obligation to sell it any cheaper than he wants to. The going rate is meaningless. Perhaps he bought it for $150 and now, for whatever reason, needs to sell it and doesn't want to take a loss.

Also, the "going rate" is meaningless because someone new to Ebay or unfamiliar with the search function could buy it for $150 on a whim on their initial search.

The bottom line is that the seller isn't doing anything wrong. He's not obligated to sell it to you for what you want to pay. He only needs to sell it for what he wants to sell it for.

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I agree with you completely that the seller can hold out for whatever amount he wants, but I think the idea is that if you're going to list something with a Best Offer option, it's pretty ******* to send a counter-offer 1 cent less than your BIN price. Why even have the Best Offer option if this is all the seller is going to do for counter-offers?

+1

My other problem is the seller that just straight up declines a reasonable (i.e., market rate) offer without making a counter. I think nearly any potential buyer is of course looking to pay at most going rate, but is willing to haggle a bit in the neighborhood of current market pricing. To just flat out reject a reasonable offer without a counter pretty much turns me off to the seller. I seldom bid my max price on an item, but definitely don't underbid beyond reason, leaving room to negotiate.

autocut · Feb 5, 2012

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brian26 said:
The seller is under no obligation to sell it any cheaper than he wants to. The going rate is meaningless. Perhaps he bought it for $150 and now, for whatever reason, needs to sell it and doesn't want to take a loss.

Also, the "going rate" is meaningless because someone new to Ebay or unfamiliar with the search function could buy it for $150 on a whim on their initial search.

The bottom line is that the seller isn't doing anything wrong. He's not obligated to sell it to you for what you want to pay. He only needs to sell it for what he wants to sell it for.

Yes, the "eBay going rate" is bogus. I never sell a card for eBay going rate. People can either accept my price or keep searching. the only problem I see with this is that if he wants $149.99, then he shouldn't have a best offer checked. If he wants to get close to it, going down $5 would have been OK and work from there.

trauty · Feb 5, 2012

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I remember a few years back I was looking for some Rollerblades, I found some I liked, did some research and found the guy with the lowest priced ones on ebay. He had the best offer available so I sent him an offer that was just $10 below his asking price (and we are talking an item that is well over $100). He declined. Had he sent me a counter offer somewhere in the middle I would have accepted. In fact had he just had them listed with no best offer I would have paid his asking price. I ended up buying them from somebody else for around $10 more than his asking price just because I was irritated that he wasted my time. If you aren't willing to take at least 10% off the asking price then it would be a good idea to not select the best offer.

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