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Where we the complaints the last 2 years when we made these sets for him as Leaf branded?... BG


I generally make it a rule to stay out of these threads because they get cluttered. Fact is, you're in a different world than you were 2 years ago because people are starting to buy in. I'm pretty sure you understand that...
 

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I am available to talk personally further, but I believe we have covered all relevant ground... Last call for new (unanswered questions).. BG

In case there is confusion, yes we made money doing this. Had we not, they would have done everything themselves...
In which case we'd make no money... However, the reason this is a good thing (although no one cares to see this as a positive), Rize is providing base cards for prospects for which we do not care to make an release base cards ourselves,..
Puigs base cards are not available in Topps or Leaf products,,, BG
 

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So, you dont wann talk to the people who buy the products you put out?
WOW

Maybe if, oh I dont know, you actully talked with collectors, your company wouldnt be bashed on here.

I spend 2-4 hours a day talking to collectors.. Did you just wake up from a 20 year slumber?
I am the ONLY manufacturer who cares to interact... BG
 

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I am available to talk personally further, but I believe we have covered all relevant ground... Last call for new (unanswered questions).. BG

In case there is confusion, yes we made money doing this. Had we not, they would have done everything themselves...
In which case we'd make no money... However, the reason this is a good thing (although no one cares to see this as a positive), Rize is providing base cards for prospects for which we do not care to make an release base cards ourselves,..
Puigs base cards are not available in Topps or Leaf products,,, BG

1. If its not your product, how did you make money?
2. I thought they did everything themselves since its not a Leaf product?

Just a lil confused here Brian
 

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So, you dont wann talk to the people who buy the products you put out?
WOW

Maybe if, oh I dont know, you actully talked with collectors, your company wouldnt be bashed on here.

I'm going to stop you here. BG is probably 100% justified in stopping since no other company does this. Brian talks to collectors all the time and i've talked to him in person a couple of times so do yourself a favor and stop here because this response uninformed.
 

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1. If its not your product, how did you make money?
2. I thought they did everything themselves since its not a Leaf product?

You clearly don't listen... I give up...
When you would like to actually understand instead of asking answer questions, Pm me.. BG
 

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I spend 2-4 hours a day talking to collectors.. Did you just wake up from a 20 year slumber?
I am the ONLY manufacturer who cares to interact... BG

I know everyone is firing away at BG but I'll jump in here and say BG actually does spend a lot of time dealing with collectors and many, including I, do appreciate it.

Can you imagine if someone at Topps gave us this much attention... seriously though... we spend more time b!tching about Topps and we get no action from the other side... someone send Topps a note and tell them to participate with us regarding their product as much as BG does regarding his.
 

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I care to a fault, but it is hard to stay the course and do the right thing when people are constantly derailing legitimate discussions for sport,., Bg
 

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1. If its not your product, how did you make money?
2. I thought they did everything themselves since its not a Leaf product?

Just a lil confused here Brian

you're probably confused because you choose not to read. step away and let the big boys talk.
 

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I think with that, this thread has (as most do) run its course quickly ...
Welcome to the Leaf forum and feel free to post here with relevant questions, concerns, compliments or ideas...

We will limit the life of threads that run their course and we will not permit Leaf fans, nor Leaf detractors, nor me to be personally attacked here...


It's all about the cards... As long as it remains respectful, debate and discussion can only be good.. BG
 

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I care to a fault, but it is hard to stay the course and do the right thing when people are constantly derailing legitimate discussions for sport,., Bg

I dont think there is anyone who has spoken to you who wouldnt realize that. this is not an issue about caring, this is an issue of not doing things that make your reputation murky. Regardless of what you say or think, Leaf is on the back of what I think is a product with a substandard design...
 

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Back open for business... Lets see if intelligent and mature discussion can exist... BG
 

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