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    I'm glad the majority of voters have never stepped on a baseball field.


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    I think Mo is going to break Tom Seaver's HOF % record

    Quote Originally Posted by nosterbor View Post
    Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!
    This will be one of the main reasons that he does not beat Seaver.

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    When voters vote NO, because they don't like a guy, please explain why the % even matters????
    If he gets 100%, what does it mean??
    To me, it means he won a popularity contest.
    Which means very little.
    It's about getting in, and everyone knows he belongs.
    But does getting 100% mean you belong more than someone who got 98??
    % of getting in = meaningless at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosterbor View Post
    Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!
    One can say only his total number of saves would be different. Would anything else be?

    I like the Pirates, but the Pirates would've traded him or Mo would've left anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waxov View Post
    it looks like Jeter was 9th in WAR that year. probably Papi's year.

    And Justin Verlander didn't even have the highest WAR for an AL Pitcher the year he won the MVP.

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    worst votes in recent memory to me are the Tejada and Kent MVPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nosterbor View Post
    Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!
    But he didn't play for the Pirates. We really going to start speculating on what guys would have done on other teams?

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    I agree. It's a position in the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markakis8 View Post
    I think Mo will break Seaver's HOF % voting record of 98.8%. It's a long shot, I know. Especially since their are more writers voting than in 1992. But I do believe for every 100 possible voters, 99 will vote Mo in.
    It won't happen. Too many writers believe someone should not be voted on their first ballot -- or not worthy enough of a first ballot vote -- or too many writers will say he's been overhyped and overrated because he played his career for the Yankees.

    I think he's among the best closers of all-time so he'd make my first ballot vote if I had one.

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    There are just too many voters with weird agendas and arbitrary criteria to think anyone will hit 99% these days. Since Seaver, the only person I thought might've had a shot was Ripken, and he didn't get there. Of everyone else in the world who hasn't been on a ballot yet, the only guy I think could get there is Maddux, but it's an extreme long shot. Since Ryan in 1999, only Ripken and Gwynn in 2007 and Henderson in 2009 even hit 92%. Obviously, every ballot is different, but if there's anyone out there who didn't think either of those 3 guys didn't deserve a vote, I'm sure at least that many will think Rivera won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by markakis8 View Post
    Any and all bias aside, there aren't too many "lock" HOFers that could potentially get 100% of the vote outside Mo....Maddux....Griffey...maybe Jeter....

    Randy Johnson is on there too IMO...300 wins, just over 3.00 career ERA, almost 5000 Ks, 5 Cy Youngs including 4 straight, and won a World Series


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    Quote Originally Posted by All The Hype View Post
    Randy Johnson is on there too IMO...300 wins, just over 3.00 career ERA, almost 5000 Ks, 5 Cy Youngs including 4 straight, and won a World Series
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    Quote Originally Posted by All The Hype View Post
    Randy Johnson is on there too IMO...300 wins, just over 3.00 career ERA, almost 5000 Ks, 5 Cy Youngs including 4 straight, and won a World Series
    Yes, I agree. I have no clue why anyone would not vote for The Big Unit. It sounds petty but some writers do not like players that bounce around from team to team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markakis8 View Post
    Yes, I agree. I have no clue why anyone would not vote for The Big Unit. It sounds petty but some writers do not like players that bounce around from team to team.
    He was a gun for hire and was very good at it.

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    Well Griffey broke Seaver's record first, but in my mind I always knew Mo had a shot at being the first 100%er

    Could not have happened to a better person.

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