I think Mo is going to break Tom Seaver's HOF % record

matfanofold · May 19, 2013

If anyone could push the weight of a closer and the value of a HOF candidate (as a closer), it's Mo. I for one can not conceivable think why anyone would not vote him in on the first ballot, but then again this is the HOF voting committee we are talking about. He could be the first 100% or not make it the first time around and neither would shock me considering the source.

Waxov · May 19, 2013

I just looked up Lou Gehrig and he got 85%. . . that sums up how hard it is to get 100, there is always some oddball voter.

petMonster · May 19, 2013

Lots of guys should get 100%, but somehow it doesn't happen. All you can do is shake your head and wonder. I think Mo, Maddux, and Frank Thomas (as well as other names mentioned like Griffey and Jeter) SHOULD be obvious, but it probably won't happen for any of them.

MansGame · May 19, 2013

Voters suck!!

Signed,

Albert Belle

hive17 · May 19, 2013

matfanofold said:
If anyone could push the weight of a closer and the value of a HOF candidate (as a closer), it's Mo. I for one can not conceivable think why anyone would not vote him in on the first ballot, but then again this is the HOF voting committee we are talking about. He could be the first 100% or not make it the first time around and neither would shock me considering the source.

This was my thought. I know that closers are perceived as different and not as important, but it's not like the closer position is going anywhere. Hoffman and Mo soldified it as a legit position in baseball. So why not have the greatest at the position in the HoF, and why waste time voting him in?

D-Lite · May 19, 2013

For me, aside from being a devout Yankee fan, I think his post season performance makes him an absolute must vote. Tons of multi-inning appearances and two freakin' seasons worth of relief work (141 IP!) just in the PS.
And this also in the post season:
0.759 WHIP (86 H and 21 BB in those 141 IP)
0.70 ERA
2 HR!

gmsieb · May 19, 2013

I don't really think the % matters. If some of the guys who are in, like ruth, mays, aaron, etc, weren't 100%, then it's kinda of a joke.

Sly · May 19, 2013

hive17 said:
This was my thought. I know that closers are perceived as different and not as important, but it's not like the closer position is going anywhere. Hoffman and Mo soldified it as a legit position in baseball. So why not have the greatest at the position in the HoF, and why waste time voting him in?

I agree. It's a position in the game.

Sincerely,
Edgar Martinez

D-Lite · May 19, 2013

Sly said:
I agree. It's a position in the game.

Sincerely,
Edgar Martinez

And think about it this way: that's the guy Mariano always refers to as the one guy he couldn't get out.

nosterbor · May 19, 2013

Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!

AmishDave · May 19, 2013

I'm glad the majority of voters have never stepped on a baseball field.

George_Calfas · May 19, 2013

nosterbor said:
Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!

This will be one of the main reasons that he does not beat Seaver.

gmsieb · May 19, 2013

When voters vote NO, because they don't like a guy, please explain why the % even matters????
If he gets 100%, what does it mean??
To me, it means he won a popularity contest.
Which means very little.
It's about getting in, and everyone knows he belongs.
But does getting 100% mean you belong more than someone who got 98??
% of getting in = meaningless at this point.

uniquebaseballcards · May 19, 2013

nosterbor said:
Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!

One can say only his total number of saves would be different. Would anything else be?

I like the Pirates, but the Pirates would've traded him or Mo would've left anyway.

vwnut13 · May 19, 2013

Waxov said:
it looks like Jeter was 9th in WAR that year. probably Papi's year.

And Justin Verlander didn't even have the highest WAR for an AL Pitcher the year he won the MVP.

Waxov · May 19, 2013

worst votes in recent memory to me are the Tejada and Kent MVPs.

elmalo · May 19, 2013

nosterbor said:
Put MO on the Pirates in the same time frame and tell me that. NO WAY!

But he didn't play for the Pirates. We really going to start speculating on what guys would have done on other teams?

hive17 · May 20, 2013

Sly said:
I agree. It's a position in the game.

Sincerely,
Edgar Martinez

Co-signed; Paul Molitor

rsmath · May 20, 2013

markakis8 said:
I think Mo will break Seaver's HOF % voting record of 98.8%. It's a long shot, I know. Especially since their are more writers voting than in 1992. But I do believe for every 100 possible voters, 99 will vote Mo in.

It won't happen. Too many writers believe someone should not be voted on their first ballot -- or not worthy enough of a first ballot vote -- or too many writers will say he's been overhyped and overrated because he played his career for the Yankees.

I think he's among the best closers of all-time so he'd make my first ballot vote if I had one.

smapdi · May 20, 2013

There are just too many voters with weird agendas and arbitrary criteria to think anyone will hit 99% these days. Since Seaver, the only person I thought might've had a shot was Ripken, and he didn't get there. Of everyone else in the world who hasn't been on a ballot yet, the only guy I think could get there is Maddux, but it's an extreme long shot. Since Ryan in 1999, only Ripken and Gwynn in 2007 and Henderson in 2009 even hit 92%. Obviously, every ballot is different, but if there's anyone out there who didn't think either of those 3 guys didn't deserve a vote, I'm sure at least that many will think Rivera won't.

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