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Thread: Is Leaf Rize the official name now? 4,700+ auctions on eBay and Rize is on Leaf's product page

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    Quote Originally Posted by hail2thevictors View Post
    How many more unlicensed cards does the market want of these prospects? It's just getting old, and I'm sick of going through listings of player X and seeing the majority of listings being this Rize crap.

    Sounds like a great tagline for the product.

    "Rize Crap: Licensed and Manufactured by Leaf"


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    Quote Originally Posted by hail2thevictors View Post
    How many more unlicensed cards does the market want of these prospects? It's just getting old, and I'm sick of going through listings of player X and seeing the majority of listings being this Rize crap.
    Licensing confuses so many people, its essentially meaningless. This post is just another example.

    As BG said these cards are indeed licensed.

    "Topps does not, in any manner, make any representations as to whether its cards will attain any future value."

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    Quote Originally Posted by uniquebaseballcards View Post
    Licensing confuses so many people, its essentially meaningless. This post is just another example.

    As BG said these cards are indeed licensed.
    No, licensing doesn't confuse "so many people". I'm obviously talking about being licensed by the MLB, which is exclusive to Topps of course. Listen, I could put together drawings of players done by 5 year olds, with on card autos from prospects, and could get them licensed.

    Spare me the BS if you don't mind. Obviously this stuff is licensed--but it doesn't give an ounce to the credibility of the product-or should I say products (as in what, 4 or 5 Leaf prospect based products now?). I was a fan when it was just Leaf Valiant and Leaf Draft, but this has gotten way out of hand.

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    Not to spite opinion here, but LEAF is a business looking to make money. We can all chose what we like and what to buy, and I fail to see how anything 'Rize' related is going to hamper the hobby at all save for perhaps reflecting poorly on the LEAF trademark. This, other that potential wordsmiths making something out of what BG may have said or implied, is really meaningless. Who really cares? I mean really cares other than to chew the fat? Does anyone really think because LEAF Rize cards are out there that it is going to lessen the value of your 'other' brand cards? Lol, No....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leaf View Post
    Our position has not changed. This product is a "private label" product produced for RIZE utilizing Leaf's licensing (yes, it is player licensing) and autograph contracts.
    Your position in the original thread from last year, was that you'd have your legal staff order eBay to remove any auctions with the title "Leaf Rize" in them.
    If your position has not changed, then why are there thousands of auctions with Leaf Rize in the title?
    And why is Rize listed on your Leaf products page if it's not your product, only licensed for another company's product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hail2thevictors View Post
    No, licensing doesn't confuse "so many people". I'm obviously talking about being licensed by the MLB, which is exclusive to Topps of course. Listen, I could put together drawings of players done by 5 year olds, with on card autos from prospects, and could get them licensed.

    Spare me the BS if you don't mind. Obviously this stuff is licensed--but it doesn't give an ounce to the credibility of the product-or should I say products (as in what, 4 or 5 Leaf prospect based products now?). I was a fan when it was just Leaf Valiant and Leaf Draft, but this has gotten way out of hand.

    **Disclaimer** This is all my opinion
    Sure I know what you mean here, but whether or not real confusion is involved it's not fair to provide inaccurate information to suit multiple agendas and yet people do it here all the time. Sure someone may not like cards that aren't MLB licensed which is absolutely fine to explicitly state.

    To all of this it's fair to say that it's particularly odd that MLB licensing affects prospecting at all given real prospects lack any MLB experience whatsoever.

    If there were any logic in licensing at all, player licensing would be most important across all parts of the hobby... but that's another topic of discussion.

    "Topps does not, in any manner, make any representations as to whether its cards will attain any future value."

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    Quote Originally Posted by nyc3 View Post
    Times are different now.

    I'm way less sensitive to this kind of stuff these days. In the grand scheme of things, language in images just do not matter as long as it isn't over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cgilmo View Post
    Times are different now.

    I'm way less sensitive to this kind of stuff these days. In the grand scheme of things, language in images just do not matter as long as it isn't over the top.
    Thanks Chris. I was just trying to be funny and thought it worked quite well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erich View Post
    Thanks Chris. I was just trying to be funny and thought it worked quite well.
    You were, I was just razzing you.





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