Johnny Manziel: Yea? or Nay? Your thoughts? with Poll...

gt2590 · Jan 8, 2014

Now that Johnny Football has Officially filed for the Draft, what are your Thoughts?

It's been a while since I've seen so many "insiders, draftniks, connected League guys, etc. seem so split on a Prospect? It's still 4 months to the Draft, but I was just wondering what everyone's Opinion is of his Career's chance of success...

nappyd · Jan 8, 2014

He'd need to go to the right team with an OC who'd take advantage of his skillset and have good enough talent around him to help him make plays. He can play, but still wonder about his durability long-term. Cutting back on running from last season to this season while having better passing numbers was a positive.

tpeichel · Jan 8, 2014

I'd love to see him end up as a Viking.

f2tornado · Jan 8, 2014

He seems to have the "it" factor should he keep his head out of his arse. QBs like Brees and Wilson have proved you can be successful on the short end of the stick.

matfanofold · Jan 8, 2014

I really have no data to back this up, I just have a gut feeling he is going to be a flop.

ThoseBackPages · Jan 8, 2014

So it's up to Bridgewater to carry the 2014 wax?

it's well known the Hobby doesn't give a crap about non-QBs

jrinne · Jan 8, 2014

Not a Johnny fan, AJ will be the man. I'd love to see him go to Denver under Peyton for a few years.

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MansGame · Jan 8, 2014

Browns

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MansGame · Jan 8, 2014

http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...mock-draft-round-by-round-best-case-scenarios

Epic Browns draft IMO.

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Juan Gris · Jan 9, 2014

MansGame said:
http://m.bleacherreport.com/article...mock-draft-round-by-round-best-case-scenarios

Epic Browns draft IMO.

My God would that be awesome.

gt2590 · Jan 9, 2014

ThoseBackPages said:
So it's up to Bridgewater to carry the 2014 wax?

it's well known the Hobby doesn't give a crap about non-QBs

Johnny Football will sell a ton of wax, at least initially, and IF he's successful, will stay very strong.

MansGame · Jan 9, 2014

Juan Gris said:
My God would that be awesome.

I know right lol

lisu · Jan 9, 2014

I don't know if Manziel will be a great pro, but I know that he'll help Panini and Topps up their production runs so that ripping will be painful sort of like 2012.

gt2590 · Jan 11, 2014

7-4 Nays so far.

Personally, I think he'll flame out after a good start...

Crewfan82 · Jan 19, 2014

He will flop. Pocket passers are king. His backyard style won't work in the NFL.

f2tornado · Jan 20, 2014

Crewfan82 said:
He will flop. Pocket passers are king. His backyard style won't work in the NFL.

Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, among others will beg to differ. Manziel proved he can make accurate throws in the pocket this year while still making plays with his feet. Johnny was averaging 58 yards per game on the ground, so, while scrambling was part of his game it was by no means his calling card. He certainly showed his heart was in it during the bowl game while off the field nonsense seemed to be more limited or a thing of the past. Much of it seemed overblown by the media anyway. I do question his amount of experience yet also don't see what more he could do at the collegiate level. He lost Joeckle and didn't lose a beat. A more defensive minded LSU did pick him apart so he's likely to have some rough games adjusting to the big league but that's nothing new. Durability is also a concern but I suspect he will ultimately become a more pocket oriented QB with time. I could see Cleveland snagging this guy at #4 if some other team doesn't make the hop. He's like Brett Favre with Steve Young's legs and probably Young's (not so stellar) durability. I'm pretty high on him yet at the same time will enjoy watching him get crushed by someone like Ndamukong Suh.

Cajun68 · Jan 20, 2014

I don't know for sure. I am not a big college football fan so I don't watch college games that often. I sure don't know enough about hi to decide.

Crewfan82 · Jan 20, 2014

f2tornado said:
Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, among others will beg to differ. Manziel proved he can make accurate throws in the pocket this year while still making plays with his feet. Johnny was averaging 58 yards per game on the ground, so, while scrambling was part of his game it was by no means his calling card. He certainly showed his heart was in it during the bowl game while off the field nonsense seemed to be more limited or a thing of the past. Much of it seemed overblown by the media anyway. I do question his amount of experience yet also don't see what more he could do at the collegiate level. He lost Joeckle and didn't lose a beat. A more defensive minded LSU did pick him apart so he's likely to have some rough games adjusting to the big league but that's nothing new. Durability is also a concern but I suspect he will ultimately become a more pocket oriented QB with time. I could see Cleveland snagging this guy at #4 if some other team doesn't make the hop. He's like Brett Favre with Steve Young's legs and probably Young's (not so stellar) durability. I'm pretty high on him yet at the same time will enjoy watching him get crushed by someone like Ndamukong Suh.

Lol, at the Kaepernick and Wilson comment. Both guys would be nowhere without their teams stellar defenses and run game. Look at every Super Bowl champ for the last 15+ years and tell me a pocket passer isn't king in the NFL.

nappyd · Jan 21, 2014

lisu said:
I don't know if Manziel will be a great pro, but I know that he'll help Panini and Topps up their production runs so that ripping will be painful sort of like 2012.

Him, Clowney, Bridgewater, whoever the cowboys draft, the wr from a&m who bailed Manziel out a lot, whoever green bay drafts, sadly not Rashad Greene, Benjamin if he has a good combine/pro day, the other Ellington, SEC star qb from the gamecock, bama players ranked too low, etc.

Yeah it'll be a kick in the junk.

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nappyd · Jan 21, 2014

f2tornado said:
Colin Kaepernick, Russell Wilson, Brett Favre, Fran Tarkenton, among others will beg to differ. Manziel proved he can make accurate throws in the pocket this year while still making plays with his feet. Johnny was averaging 58 yards per game on the ground, so, while scrambling was part of his game it was by no means his calling card. He certainly showed his heart was in it during the bowl game while off the field nonsense seemed to be more limited or a thing of the past. Much of it seemed overblown by the media anyway. I do question his amount of experience yet also don't see what more he could do at the collegiate level. He lost Joeckle and didn't lose a beat. A more defensive minded LSU did pick him apart so he's likely to have some rough games adjusting to the big league but that's nothing new. Durability is also a concern but I suspect he will ultimately become a more pocket oriented QB with time. I could see Cleveland snagging this guy at #4 if some other team doesn't make the hop. He's like Brett Favre with Steve Young's legs and probably Young's (not so stellar) durability. I'm pretty high on him yet at the same time will enjoy watching him get crushed by someone like Ndamukong Suh.

Mother of God. You can keep Manziel, Mike Evans has more upside.

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