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Thread: You can't fight city hall- eBay protecting large sellers and shillers (probstein content)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Tar View Post
    Maybe so. But again it is not going to happen anytime soon.
    just doing my part to speed that process up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lancemountain View Post
    just doing my part to speed that process up!
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    While I get that it would be nice to save extra money, what's the big deal here? You agreed that spending X on Y was acceptable to you. How that price was reached is irrelevant, either you want it for that price or not. If not, don't bid that much. Is it ideal? No. But on eBay you never have to pay more than you want to put in the box.


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    His auctions are known and proven as shilled, he likely also knows that his auctions are getting shilled but does not proactively stop them, nor should he be as proactive as you're suggesting.
    Your main point at addressing this behavior is to suspend payments for 30 days to consignee, but do you think that would be pretty bad for business for him. If I was co-signing and I had a few options I would not choose one where I have to wait 30 days to get part of the money the item sold for. Whether or not he wants to stop it, he does not have the recourse to do so as the policies you've suggested are fine on paper, but when you make your living this way you're not going to do something to jeopardize this. I'm sure you got shilled and it sucks, but at the end of the day you were satisfied with your purchase before you found out about the shilling so at the end of the day little harm was ultimately caused.

    Edit to add: Just because little harm was ultimately caused, that does not make it ok; I understand why you may feel robbed of $62. The responsibility here is on eBay to fix this problem and they choose to have none of it and I'm not saying I have any good ideas on how they can fix it.
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    If auctions are several thousand years old, then auction shills are several thousand years old.

    It's not exactly accepted, but expected when you're going to a legitimate auction.


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    i have no idea why people dont snipe.
    What you collect is awesome, what i collect sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages View Post
    i have no idea why people dont snipe.
    The 1% of the time that the program fails (has happened to me only once) you lose complete trust in the program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by homerun28aa View Post
    The 1% of the time that the program fails (has happened to me only once) you lose complete trust in the program.

    so every time something doesnt go the way it's expected, give it up completely?
    What you collect is awesome, what i collect sucks.

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    Like Wes mentioned, nobody's forced to bid more then they are willing to pay.
    What you collect is awesome, what i collect sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages View Post
    so every time something doesnt go the way it's expected, give it up completely?
    When it comes to things I regard as incredibly important you're damn right (i.e. pieces of cardboard with used cloth or scribbles on it) . It's just one of those technologies that's good to have, but not necessary if it completely f***s you over you give up and revert back to the old method. The last thing I want to happen in a big ticket auction is a bid not getting placed so I'll usually place a bid near the start of the auction (way lower than I expect it to go for) just so it's on my radar and I don't forget about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages View Post
    Like Wes mentioned, nobody's forced to bid more then they are willing to pay.
    Absolutely there's no holes in that argument, but nonetheless shillers should not be protected by the cover up that "well you can always pay what you want to pay".

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    im not saying shilling is right, because it certainly isnt.

    people shouldnt search packs or sell dead boxes, but they do all the time. this "hobby" is pure evil
    What you collect is awesome, what i collect sucks.

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    This man speaks nothing but truth.

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    Just from that one user you can't prove any shilling happened there for sure.
    maybe if the guy had a lot ore feedback and his bids were in the 100's with the same seller it's easier to prove.
    With what you showed there's no definitive way to prove it
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    [MENTION=3275]Lancemountain[/MENTION]:

    T, did they ever say why your Feedback was removed?
    Don't forget to use the FCB Link when buying on eBay!

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