What 1/1s have 2 (or more) copies ?

RStadlerASU22 · Feb 24, 2015

Curious as to what 1/1s have shown up with more than 1 copy out there? I'm talking about fully stamped (look exactly alike) , not NNO ones etc.

And if you know of other sports besides BB , post em in here also.

Was it 1998 Sports Illustrated ?

1998 Score

Was there a Flair or an Ultra ?

Ryan

MetalAndy · Feb 24, 2015

I have 2 1/1 1998 Score Ellis Burks. These are actually stamped 1/1. Oops haha

MetalAndy · Feb 24, 2015

Sorry for the lousy pics but you get the idea lol.

Yanks2151 · Feb 24, 2015

MetalAndy said:
View attachment 46855 View attachment 46856 Sorry for the lousy pics but you get the idea lol.

Whats the story with these? Mistake? Backdoor? I have my player like yours of the same year and when I showed it off years ago on another Site people mentioned that some players had more than one.

forgerelli · Feb 24, 2015

I have two copies of the 2014 Topps Allen & Ginter MINI MINI or SUPER MINI Mariano Rivera. These were only in the mini rip cards and were advertised as 1/1's. I saw mention of this on Blowout last year. Two other duplicate 1/1's from the set were reported, Jose Fernandez and Paul Goldschmidt, but they were owned by different people. I just bought my second copy of the Mariano a couple weeks ago and own both copies.

If anyone wants to use these images to embarrass/call out Topps feel free, just let me know about it.

Scott F

MansGame · Feb 24, 2015

If my memory serves me right, it was 1998 Ultra has multiple copies of the same 1/1s... I think there is a guy who went after the set (I know, how crazy is that) and has been unloading it and has like a few dozen pairs of 1/1s LOL!

carrsallstars · Feb 24, 2015

1998 Score Rookie Traded Showcase Series Artist's Proofs 1 of 1's (like the Burks shown above) are the only other 1990's one I know of. I have one Manny but have never seen a second...

MetalAndy · Feb 24, 2015

I wish I could remember how I obtained 2 of the Burks. Not sure how there came to be multiple 1 of 1's. Anyone know? Was it just a goof or poor marketing by the companies? They had to know people would find more than one.

RStadlerASU22 · Feb 24, 2015

Was there 2 of the 1998 SIs or am I misremembering that ? So no Flair dups either anyone hearing of ?

Ryan

carrsallstars · Feb 24, 2015

I am not certain but I believe some felt there were 98 SI 1/1s out there that were not genuine and didn't match up with the pack issued ones...

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RStadlerASU22 · Feb 24, 2015

carrsallstars said:
I am not certain but I believe some felt there were 98 SI 1/1s out there that were not genuine and didn't match up with the pack issued ones...

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Got ya , I slightly remember this stuff at this point. That sounds more like fake stamps over 2 printed by the company George Calfas listed the Clark like 2 years ago and someone hit the BIN quicker than I could. If anyone k ows more info on these or has 2 copies of a card , post it up.

Anything else out there ? That Rivera one is odd at this day in time , but ya never know what Topps is thinking on a given day.

Ryan

joey12508 · Feb 25, 2015

What about counterfeit or custom copies of pack pulled cards? I know its a little off topic, but there seems to be more and more of these showing up on the secondary market.

RStadlerASU22 · Feb 25, 2015

joey12508 said:
What about counterfeit or custom copies of pack pulled cards? I know its a little off topic, but there seems to be more and more of these showing up on the secondary market.

Share some examples of what your describing

Thx
Ryan

joey12508 · Feb 25, 2015

interesting article I read.
http://baseballcardbreakdown.blogspot.com/2015/01/concern-over-counterfeit-and-custom.html

RStadlerASU22 · Feb 25, 2015

joey12508 said:
interesting article I read.
http://baseballcardbreakdown.blogspot.com/2015/01/concern-over-counterfeit-and-custom.html

Thanks for posting Kev . Yes I can see how that can be an issue. I am a lil less concerned about customs vs copying.i know it's a fine line where some people may not know the difference , and that is a lil scary. It happens in every collectible (and even non collectible) item in the world with knock offs etc. Thats where my concern would be when they are reproducing something exactly as it was produced at the company. Adding the serial #s etc.

Ryan

MansGame · Feb 25, 2015

joey12508 said:
interesting article I read.
http://baseballcardbreakdown.blogspot.com/2015/01/concern-over-counterfeit-and-custom.html

I have been saying for a long time now that I'm a little surprised more criminals don't turn to sports cards to fake and counterfeit. I mean for someone who invests in something to fake currency like the dollar bill, might as well just make fake cards like the article says or even worse fake patch cards because you can get them graded and pass off as legit. I mean it is sad how vulnerable the hobby is and how little it is taken advantage of. I'm glad I collect Belle who has somewhat limited "new" product and the majority of his stuff is pre-2001.

carrsallstars · Feb 25, 2015

I forgot about another one I've seen:
I have the real 2010 Topps chrome superfractor 1/1 Manny Ramirez. Around 2011 an uncut sheet of superfractors surfaced which had Manny on it. Somebody bought it and cut up the cards. I must have been thinking logically when the "backdoor" Manny superfractor that came from an uncut sheet hit ebay, as I didn't feel like shelling out big bucks for a 1/1 card I already had and I was the runner up bidder.... so I only have "one" copy of that 1/1 but have seen two. The cards are the same as the real 1/1s but don;t have the 1/1 stamp/hologram.

RStadlerASU22 · Feb 25, 2015

carrsallstars said:
I forgot about another one I've seen:
I have the real 2010 Topps chrome superfractor 1/1 Manny Ramirez. Around 2011 an uncut sheet of superfractors surfaced which had Manny on it. Somebody bought it and cut up the cards. I must have been thinking logically when the "backdoor" Manny superfractor that came from an uncut sheet hit ebay, as I didn't feel like shelling out big bucks for a 1/1 card I already had and I was the runner up bidder.... so I only have "one" copy of that 1/1 but have seen two. The cards are the same as the real 1/1s but don;t have the 1/1 stamp/hologram.

Yeah, I understand some those item, just like the Victory 1/1 NNO ones and I have the Fleer Final Clipping that were to be 1/1's w/#. Looking more at ones that contained everything the company meant to have including the stamps etc.

Ryan

gracecollector · Feb 26, 2015

Regarding the 1998 Score Rookie Traded 1/1... "Please note that multiple copies of the Artist's Proof 1/1 cards have surfaced. It is believed that, while only one copy of each was inserted into Hobby packs, additional Artist's Proof 1/1s were produced for quality control purposes. These quality control cards were more than likely backdoored after Pinnacle Brands' bankruptcy."

I have one of the Grace 1/1's, and the owner of the other emailed me a scan of his.

chief7575 · Feb 26, 2015

There were some boo-boos in hockey as well. A couple of insert sets had multiple 1 of 1's. I owned a pair of these Mike Johnson cards (I need to find the scan at home), but here's one copy. I know of another collector who also had doubles of his player from the same set. I actually traded my duplicate copy back to Upper Deck and they sent me some items in return. These are from 1998-99 Upper Deck.

Also - I know that this set had at least one duplication (probably everybody in the set though)

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